Posted by dingbat on February 22, 2004, at 8:38:13
In reply to Re: About DLPA .... » dingbat, posted by Franz on February 21, 2004, at 15:48:40
> > Hi - I'm a psychologist and am often asked to recommend "supplements" by my clients (particularly the ever-growing number who don't want prescription meds). I am a chronic Mixed Anxiety-Depression sufferer (plus migraines too) and have a DUAL interest: personal and professional. I've tried DLPA 500mg (by Solgar)in all sorts of doses (and ALWAYS with Solgar VM 2000 to ensure sufficient co-factors like Vit B6 and Vit C, etc.). It's never worked for me.
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> > Similarly, I have - on the basis of research - recommended it to clients (various doses, always a decent brand like Solgar). NOT ONE CLIENT has ever experienced a *RADICAL* shift in mood/energy level/memory/concentration/chronic pain.
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> > The advice that I am using fo myself and clients is that offered by "big names" like: Dr A Fox, Dr Leon Chaitow, Patrick Holford, and various other reliable sources.
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> > Are others out there finding the same thing? Perhaps I should switch myself/clients to L-Tyrosine instead?
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> > Regards, Dingbat
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> Hello, I have tried dl phenylalanine and find it stimulant.
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> Now I am trying tyrosine and do not notice the effect, but maybe the dose I use is to low (under 1 gram).
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> There are other amino acids too, but I do not know if you want just noradrenalin and dopamine precursors.
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> Anyway, why a psychologist should have to recommend "supplements"?. Your patients seem to be confused about what psychotherapy is. They should ask a nutritionist if supplements if what they want.
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> It seems to me that many people look for "alternatives" to avoid any real treatment.
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> Best.No, my clients are confused about what psychotherapy is. It's just that most prescribers and health shop owners in this country (South Africa) don't provide clients with sufficient knowledge to make informed choices. Or, frankly, provide misinformation. I've noticed that psychologists in my area seem to be left to clean up the mess AFTER clients have tried the other alternatives. Also, what psychotherapy is/is not is largely determined by the practitioner and his/her knowledge/experience. We don't have the luxury of well-informed "psycho-nutritionists" in our area, so one has to do one's best to assist clients in this regard (either directly if you possesses the knowledge, or via referral).
If you don't mind me asking, what dose of dlPA did you find 'stimulating'. Was the dlDA just 'stimulating' (i.e., decreased anergia) or did it have a distinct 'antidepressant' effect too (i.e., a distinct positive effect on mood)?
Thanks.
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