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Lou's reply-Th Hsiung-Pilde discussion-no consent » Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 17, 2014, at 9:30:21

In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on October 15, 2014, at 11:07:45

> > > you state that support takes precedence. That means what it means. In what you have written here, what takes precedence is what in your thinking will be good for this community as a whole. In allowing what is not supportive to be posted without sanction, a subset of readers could think that you have lied when you posted that support takes precedence.
> >
> > True, a subset of readers could think that.
> >
> > A subset of readers could also think that I'm supporting the community as a whole by giving it an opportunity to deal with issues like hate.
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> I'd like to revise that:
>
> A subset of readers could also think that I'm not sanctioning those posts because the outcomes you fear are unlikely.
>
> Bob

Mr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...A subset of readers could also think that I'm supporting the community as a whole by giving it an opportunity to deal with issues like hate...].
You reply to me here comes from that I am in discussion with you to remediate posts that show anti-Semitic propaganda and statements that could lead me as a Jew to feel that my faith is being put down and that defamation also is posted here toward me that these statements can be seen as supportive where they are originally posted here on the basis that those posts with those statements are not sanctioned and your policy is that being supportive takes precedence so a subset of readers could think that the anti-Semitic propaganda and defamation unsanctioned is considered to be supportive by you and that it will be good for this community as a whole in your thinking for that to be seen on the basis that your TOS states that people are to try to trust you in what you do here because in your thinking it will be good for this community as a whole.
I am unsure as to what you are wanting readers to think here by you now saying that you want to revise what you posted to me here. You say that you now want to revise what you said to be that there could also be some readers to think that because you are not sanctioning (those posts) which are those in discussion concerning the anti-Semitic propaganda and defamation in question in this discussion {because the outcomes that you(Lou) fear are unlikely}.
This could mean that your revision does not replace your original statement that you are supporting the community by giving it an opportunity to deal with issues like hate, but as I read it, there are now two reasons stated by you to me here for the anti-Semitic propaganda to be unsanctioned which could lead readers to think that anti-Semitism and defamation toward me here is supportive on the basis that you say that [...a subset of readers could also think that I'm not sanctioning those posts because the outcomes you (Lou) fear are unlikely...].
In your first reason to leave the anti-Semitic propaganda unsanctioned, if you are wanting to mean that your intent for leaving the statements unsanctioned is so there could be a discussion about hate, I do not think that for a discussion of hate to take place here that anti-Semitic propaganda and defamation against me needs to be left unsanctioned in order for that type of discussion to take place on the basis that I think that type of discussion could take place even if those statements were sanctioned by you, could it not? If not, why not?
And if your intent was to leave the anti-Semitism and defamation in question unsanctioned so that you could provide a forum for a discussion of hate, I did not give you my permission to be a subject person to be a target of hate here, nor does your revision erase what I feel from the anti-Semitism and defamation against me being allowed to be seen here as supportive by you where those posts are originally posted. You see, you agree that discrimination is considered to be an abuse of power. And discrimination could stigmatize those discriminated upon. Stigmatization can hurt recipients of that, and being the recipient of hate being allowed here to be seen as supportive where it is originally posted.
Lou Pilder

 

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