Posted by SLS on September 13, 2014, at 20:16:50
In reply to Lou's reply-pstehtsponsoard » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2014, at 12:53:14
> > > > > I have offered Mr. Hsung and is deputies opportunities to address the anti-Semitism and the defamation against me where those posts are originally posted.
> > > > Would you like to see the posts that you see as being problematic deleted?
> > > > If the deletion of these posts is not an option afforded you by Dr. Hsiung, what actions would you like him to perform?> > > You asked if I would like to see the post in question that degrade and debase Jews deleted.
> > >
> > > At this point, my answer is "no". This is because that the anti-Semitic thought in those posts spans many years that could have created and developed here, to a subset of readers, that anti-Semitism is supportive
> > I understand.
> >
> > What, if anything, should Dr. Hsiung do in order to remediate or mitigate the development of antisemitism that you deem as being theoretically possible as a result of his not sanctioning the posts that concern you?> It is not as simple as deleting those posts. For Mr. Hsiung has posted what can be seen as an attempt to justify allowing those statements to remain unsanctioned.
What are the reasons offered by Dr. Hsiung as to why he will not sanction the statements you identify as being problematic?
> He also takes back what he said that shows that a subset of readers could have been misled to believe that he understood that one match could start a forest fire and so he does not wait to sanction incivility and that if a statement was unsanctioned that it was not against his rules.
Do you feel that these new moderation policies should be applied retroactively by editing the posting archives?
I don't see any forest fires. Do you? If there are no forest fires, perhaps the history of posts that concern you have not had the sociological consequences that worry you. Of course, it is conceivable that these posts have influenced people who read them, but who either never post or whose posts do not reveal such influences.
> He has also revised his FAQ recently secretly and will not post a disclosure to alert readers what these revisions are.
Interesting.
> This all goes to show his state of mind and to what his intent could be in allowing anti-Semitic hate and defamation against me to be seen as supportive where it is originally posted.
This is a very alarming statement. What do you think is the intent of Dr. Hsiung?
> Any solution to the allowing of the statements that defame Jews could be dealt with by posting his tagline to please be civil to those statements
I am undecided as to whether or not it makes sense to edit the archives or comment on the civility of posts residing in antiquity.
> The harm that could have come from those statements unsanctioned and continue to be able to cause harm, can not be erased.
I do understand the point that you are making here. However, I don't agree with you that the posts you have historically cited as being capable of arousing antisemitism are themselves antisemitic.
> Nor does posting his tagline to be civil annul the fact that readers could think that he is allowing anti-Semitic hate to remain unsanctioned
Wouldn't replying to a post using a subject line saying, "please be civil" serve as a sanction? Regardless, I am not in favor of combing through the archives for questionable verbiage.
- ScottSome see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.- George Bernard Shaw
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