Posted by Lou Pilder on April 22, 2013, at 20:22:12
In reply to Lou's reply-832720, posted by Lou Pilder on April 22, 2013, at 19:40:23
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou, you wrote [...And what is worse, this place allows members to post statements that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings...]
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > herpills,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The statements that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings that are allowed to stand have been built upon statements that I have been trying for years to be addressed and many can be seen on the admin board here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It started from years go. Let us look at this one .
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20041109/msgs/428781.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now whatever rationale can be given to claim such statements to be supportive here, I would like for you to post it and then I can post my response to you. The statements can induce hatred toward the Jews and a false thinking of superiority that could lead one to target a Jew for murder. There are still outstanding requests in the thread from me to Mr Hsiung. And notice the bystander apathy in that thread. Then after this post a continual body of hate toward me and the the Jews is allowed to be posted. You can go to the admin board and post in the threads there if you like.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the above post in question started a thinking that posters could consider that anti-Semitic statement are supportive here because Mr Hsiung's TOS states that he does what will be good for the community as a whole and to try and trust him at what he does here. And he also states that support takes precedence.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now let' see how hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be fostered here for Mr Hsiung and his lackeys control the content and lead readers to think as to what is civil or not.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here in this post are statements that have been used for centuries by those that want to use Jews as scapegoats. I am prohibited from posting the historical parallels to that by the prohibitions to me here from Mr Hsiung.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Notice in this post verse 18 and verse 23 and verse 42. This is allowed here and readers could think that it is supportive.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To see this post:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A. Go to the search box at the bottom of this page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [faith,656322]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > To see the statements in question, when you pull up the first post there at the end of the post is a link from the LDS and John/5 can be seen in the link. Click on that and the verses come up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Now the development of hatred toward the Jews brings in what has been used by those to arouse hatred toward the Jews for thousands of years. And here it is considered to be supportive.
> > > > > > > > > > > But I say to you, you that stand by and close your eyes to this, that in That Day, (redacted by respondent)
> > > > > > > > > > > here is how to see the post.
> > > > > > > > > > > Go to the search box at the bottom of this page and enter [faith,652741] The last link offered, you will see Matt 27 in the link. Then when it comes up, look at verses 1 and 22
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > It is asked to me as to where is the anti-Semitism being allowed to be posted here.
> > > > > > > > > > Befor going on, I would like those interested to review the post cited as [faith,652741].
> > > > > > > > > > There in that last offered link to Matt 27, I would like for you to see verse 25. {His blood be...}. That verse has been used by those that want to persecute Jews and use Jews as scapegoats and to use Jews as outlets for their sadism and inflict violence upon Jews. You may see that verse and the others on television acted out in plays and movies. I am prohibited from posting my perspective here to those verses due to the prohibitions made to me by Mr Hsiung. The verse stands today as being supportive and will be good for this community as a whole according to Mr Hsiung's TOS here.
> > > > > > > > > > The historical evidence of the persecution of the Jews when that verse is used goes without saying. I am prohibited by Mr Hsiung's rules to me to post the historical parallels involving when a community allows that verse to stand in any form.
> > > > > > > > > > Now going on, when the subject of the anti-Semitism here is in discussion, I would like for you to see the following post by Mr Hsiung to me. Go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > > > > > > > > [admin,7968].
> > > > > > > > > > Look for the 7968 in the colored strip
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> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > It is asked to me here as to where the anti-Semitism is.
> > > > > > > > > Now those who are ignorant of Judaism may not be able to see the hatred toward Jews being allowed to be posted here This hatred is allowed to flame the members to have the potential for some members to seek to humiliate and degrade and dehumanize me here as a Jew. This can be done by posting insults to Judaism and the deputies and Mr Hsiung allow the insults to stand which can foster a thinking to some members that the administration is condoning of members posting what could humiliate and degrade and dehumanize me as a Jew here.
> > > > > > > > > You don't have to be a mastermind to foster hatred here. All that is needed is to ignore my requests to the administration and allow the hate to flourish, for one match can start a forest fire. The fire is still burning as long as posts that could advance hatred toward the Jews are allowed to stand.
> > > > > > > > > Now here is one such post of many that is allowed to stand. I do not accept Mr. Hsiung's rationales or excuses or whatever he wants to call his reasoning for allowing the post to stand, and I do not think that it will be good for this community as a whole to keep the fire of hate burning here by allowing the statement to remain unattended to so that members could think that it is supportive in the minds of Mr Hsiung and his deputies, since it is allowed to stand.
> > > > > > > > > Now when you look at that post, notice the insult to Judaism and other faiths that goes deep to undercutting the whole foundation of those faiths as to that the faith of the poster could be thought as superior to the others which could give a false sense of superiority to those taking mind-altering drugs to be compelled to inflict bodily or psychological harm to Jews and the others and target a Jew or the others for murder.
> > > > > > > > > You see, psychologists know that the mind uses shortcuts to process information which leads to poor judgments. And when the readers here see that a psychiatrist is allowing, over and over, statements that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings, and the deputies do not also intercede, then violence toward Jews and others can be put in the minds of the readers here IMHHH. It is my great conviction that by the nature of all the posts here that inflict psychological violence toward me that are allowed to stand, could have the potential to induce in the minds of those that read such and see such as supportive by the nature that the statements are allowed to stand, could target a Jew for murder. After all, they could be led to believe, falsely, that they will be doing good for the community as a whole.
> > > > > > > > > Now look at the second list in the post here. Then look at #5 in the second list.
> > > > > > > > > Psychologists write that by Mr Hsiung allowing the statement, that it opens the door for persuasion to occur here, and then indoctrination of hatred toward the Jews.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > To see this post, go to the search box at the end of this page and type in:
> > > > > > > > > [faith, 378930]
> > > > > > > > > look for the post that has the 378930 in the colored strip as the URL.
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> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > It is asked of me as to where the anti-Semitism is here.
> > > > > > > > Here is a post that states that all the Jewish children subjected to atrocities and then murdered do not have forgiveness from God and are precluded from having Eternal Life. This is stated as for not accepting Jesus as their Lord and savior. The statement also goes for adult Jews and other that do not accept the claim in question.
> > > > > > > > And much more to this, I am prevented by Mr Hsiung from posting here what has been revealed to me that could offer a different perspective to the claim in question here that the poster states the bible says. Does it? If I was allowed to post from my perspective, which comes from a Jewish perspective, you could learn what is repressed here by the nature of the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung.
> > > > > > > > The souls of millions of Jewish children murdered by Jew-haters can not speak here. I will speak for them.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > To see this post:
> > > > > > > > gGo to the bottom of this page to the search box and type in,[admin,950671]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > It is asked of me where the anti-Semitism is here. Let us look at the following post:
> > > > > > > Here the post states the continuing hatred toward the Jews and it is allowed to stand. Be advised that readers can think that the statement is civil here and supportive since Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence.
> > > > > > > But is it really supportive for a community to allow statements that defame Jews and that can have the potential to arouse hatred toward Jews that could lead to anti-Semitic violence?
> > > > > > > In the following post, the author brings up the ancient hatred toward the Jews and it is allowed to this day to stand which could give a way for members to arouse anti-Semitic feelings toward Jews, for others could continue by the nature that the post is allowed to stand, to vilify Jews and then those that take mind-altering drugs that can induce a mind-altered state to compel one to kill themselves and /or others, could seek out a Jew to inflict harm or death to. After all, the post that Mr Hsiung's TOS could allow people to think that it is supportive can be implanted into the minds of the readers here just as those type of statements were implanted into the minds of millions of people in a country that I am not permitted to post about here due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. But here is a post that is allowed, allowed to stoke the furnace of hatred toward the Jews, which can have a detrimental effect on readers here in their attempt to overcome depression and addiction. And is that supportive, my friends, or is it nothing more than a transparent attempt to (redacted by respondent)?
> > > > > > > In the following post, that is allowed to stand, the author states that the person in question [..was made to suffer a horrible death by *them*...].
> > > > > > > Lou To see this, look at the last paragraph by the author in the search box at the bottom of this page by typing in
> > > > > > > [faith, 1002966]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > It is asked to me as to where the anti-Semitism is here.
> > > > > > One way hatred toward the Jews is promulgated is by stereotyping Jews in a defaming or derogatory manner as to arouse ill-will toward Jews.
> > > > > > Here is one of many posts that has the potential to stereotype Jews that is allowed to stand here. This type of defamation toward Jews is a tactic used by cult leaders and the historical records shows how fascists leaders fostered hatred toward the Jews in their country to induce a mind-altered state to compel the members of their country to commit mass-murder of Jews.
> > > > > > You see, these tactics can sway even intelligent people to hate Jews. It is called {antisemitic propaganda}. And those that used it historically have been charged with crimes against humanity and executed. And I am prevented from posting here the development of the tactics used toward the Jews by the propaganda publishers of hate toward Jews in a particular time frame that shows the relationship between psychiatry and mass-murder by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. If you knew what I am prohibited to post here, I think that you could have a better understanding of psychotropic chemicals and be better able to make a more-informed decision as to drug your child or yourself or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor.
> > > > > > Now lets look at one of the posts in question.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > To see this post go to the bottom of this page to the search box and type in:
> > > > > > [faith,996847]
> > > > > > the 996847 is in the colored strip URL
> > > > > > Then here is a video showing how anti-Semitic propaganda stereotyping Jews was used to arose anti-Semitic feelings. I am prevented By Mr Hsiung to offer educational facts to you. Do you not understand what anti-Semitism
> > > > > > To see this video,
> > > > > > Go to Google
> > > > > > Type in:
> > > > > > [youtube, 1zCxrgzribI]
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > It is asked to me where the anti-Semitism is here.
> > > > > Another way that Jews can be defamed is for another religion to say that their way to God is the only way, which generally can have the potential to mean that Jews are not going to have a way to God because they are not Christians. Other faiths also.
> > > > > Here is one link where in line #6, you can see this so that others could think that he statement is supportive here by the nature that support takes precedence and that Mr Hsiung does not wait to sanction a post according to what he writes here.
> > > > > The question is if the statement is such to arouse anti-Semitic feelings. Now if a Jew reads something here and could feel put down/accused, then Mr Hsiung agrees that the statement is anti-Semitic.
> > > > > Now be advised that I am prevented from posting my response to this post in the manner that I would like due to the prohibitions made to me here by Mr Hsiung And then there becomes the question as to if the post her is allowed, and the foundation of Judaism as revealed t me is not, could there be two standards here? And if there are two standards, one for the Christiandom person and one for the Jewish person, is that then a policy here that is anti-Semitic in and of itself?
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > To see this post go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > > > [faith,832720]
> > > > > look at line #6
> > > >
> > > > herpils and friends,
> > > > The question to me here is where is the anti-Semitism being allowed to stand here by Mr Hsiung and his deputies.
> > > > Now anti-Semitism can be fostered in a community by those that control the {policies} that govern the community. And if the community members do not rise up against any policy that promotes anti-Semitism, then the leaders, as in this community Mr Hsiung and his deputies in the past and the one deputy now, can easily provide a venue for hate that can infect all of the community members in an {indoctrination}.
> > > > The administrative leaders can easily persuade the uninformed. So to make it easy to persuade members here that anrtismitism can be allowed to stand, the leaders can repress speech from those attempting to stop the anti-Semitism from being allowed to stand, which is myself and a few other members here which can keep the members uninformed. You see, if you knew what I am prevented from posting here due to the nature of the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung, then you could be informed. The prohibited information, if you knew it, could expose the indoctrination.
> > > > The influence of Mr Hsiung's posts here that I am objecting to, can manipulate member's thinking to arose hatred toward Jews. But it is much more than that, for if hate can be manipulated into the minds of the members in any form, then the hate can be acted out on any human being, even resulting in mass-murder. The members then can become victims of manipulation without them even knowing what is happening to them, and the fact that I am prevented by Mr Hsiung's rules to me here from exposing this, members could be led to think that they are doing good by posting what could arouse anti-Semitic feelings. This can be done by Mr Hsiung by breaking his own drafted rules which could give people the idea that posting what could lead a Jew to feel put down and what could arouse antisemiitc feelings is supportive and will be good for this community as a whole. By Mr Hsiung posting what could have the potential to encourage members to post what could arouse anti-Semitic feelings, by him posting that he thinks it is good, a scholastic dishonesty is glaringly visible to me by the nature that his drafted rules prohibit the posting of what could lead one to feel put down, yet he promotes the putting down of Judaism itself, which is theological anti-Semitism, or anti-Judaism.
> > > > Here is a post where Mr Hsiung states that it is good that he thinks it is good as to what the poster posted. Do you really think that it is good for it to be allowed to be posted here what is promulgated in the following post?
> > > > Lou
> > > > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page. Type in,[faith,735373]
> > > >
> > >
> > > herpils and friends,
> > > Psychologist write about how hate is promulgated by the leaders of a community in many well-researched studies. One of the major criteria in state-sponsored hate is that the leaders of the community:
> > > ALTER THEIR OWN DRAFTED RULES TO SUPPORT THE HATE.
> > > In [admin,428781], Mr Hsiung writes,[...I've been thinking...]. What readers may not know is the following and I would like for you to stop now and pull up that post before we go on. Please look for the 428781 in the colored strip in the url.
> > > You see, a little before that post there was a post where a link to a site that contained anti-Semitic content was posted. I am prevented from posting here the emails to me from Mr Hsiung as the link was allowed to stand. After much persistence from me, Mr Hsiung finanly deleted the link to the anti-Semitic content stating:
> > > [DO NOT POST LINKS TO ANTISEMITIC SITES, PERIOD]
> > > (emphasis with caps are mine)
> > > Then came the post 428781. Since this was in the start of this forum, I thought that one could delete their own post, which you can not do. You also can not modify what someone else quoted. So how can one rephrase what is being quoted other than to delete the post? You can't.
> > > So the post stood for a long time and was copied verbatim in other sites, which means that the url was not what was posted in the other site.
> > > What is important here is that Mr Hsiuing had a rule that one is not to post a link to anti-Semitic sites, period. Yet he allowed the link to the anti-Semitic hate to stand against my objection which is altering his own drafted rule that supports hatred toward the Jews.
> > > But then a lot later, the link to the anti-Semitism does not work. The link was to the literature of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, AKA the Morman Church.
> > > I contacted their tech chief to find out what happened. I am prevented from posting here my conversation with him but you could contact them through their web site. The questions concerning this are who changed the link and why was the link changed. But the overriding issue here is that Mr Hsiung altered his own drafted rule that allowed the hate to stand without posting that the statements were uncivil which could foster the hatred toward the Jews as being thought to be supportive here.
> > > The hatred depicted in the dehumanizing statements about the Jews in that post led into further posts of hatred toward me and the Jews, because Mr Hsiung says then that he's been thinking that what is [posted in a link is "different"). Oh yeah? The hate isn't any different as to if it is in a link or not and any link posted is directly to the text. And the hate keeps one from overcoming addiction and depression for psychologists show that the hate toward anyone being allowed in a community and fostered by the leaders, can lead to suicide and murder, even mass-murder, for the hate can manipulate the minds of those hating, to consider other people not human so that they feel justified in killing others. This site is for "support". Is that what support is?
> > > Lou
> >
> > herpils and friends,
> > It is asked of me as to where the anti-Semitism is here. I would like for you to bring up the following post before you go on.
> > [admin,949004]
> > the post is the one that has the 949004 in the url strip.
> > Notice that the post divides all of humanity into one of two groups. This is because the word {ONLY} is used by the author. Notice that the caps are the author's, as to give emphasis to the division of humanity. And notice that the author states that the Bible says so. Notice that there is not a citation to substantiate that claim.
> > You see, there are 13 bible verses used in the claim, all of which I am prevented from posting about here due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. If I was allowed to post what has been revealed to me, one could have knowledge and the indoctrination could be exposed here. By me being prohibited from posting from a Jewish perspective, then the claim can have the potential to be thought to be what the community is to hold as supportive, which pushes the indoctrination further into the minds of readers here that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings.
> > But the overriding issue is that the rule-drafter states that what is not supportive can not be posted here, for support takes precedence. And omne match could start a forst fire. Knowing that, then the post in question has in it what is still burning. Burning in the minds of readers here that consider it to be supportive by the nature that Mr Hsiung states that it is {OK}. People could think that {OK} means that Mr Hsiung thinks that it is supportive and he appreciates if you accept what he does here. That is part of the indoctrination, for to say that the 1 and 1/2 million Jewish children that were murdered by the {redacted by respondent} do not have forgiveness from the God that the Jews give service and worship to, and that they also can not have Eternal Life because they rejected the claim in question, has the potential to infuse hate into readers here that could then consider Jews , and also Islamic people and others that reject the claim, as that the statement purports what it says. Be advised my friends, that it has been revealed to me that forgiveness from the God that the Jews give service and worship to, along with Eternal Life, is defined in the scriptures that they use which is not the same as the claim allowed to stand here that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings. And be advised that I am prohibited by Mr Hsiung from posting what has been revealed to me that IMHO could erase any hate that people could have by reading that Mr Hsiung considers the claim to be posted here as {OK}. The rule is that one is to not post anything that could lead one to feel put down, so Mr Hsiung alters his own drafted rule that could lead readers to think that what is in question is supportive. And it has been revealed to me that Jews can have forgiveness and Eternal Life and so can Islamic people and others that do not accept the claim in question, and if you were allowed to know what is prohibited for me to post here, you could be free from hate, addiction, depression, anxiety, and you could sing a new song.
> > Lou
>
> herpils and friends,
> It is asked of me here as to where the anti-Semitism is.
> Here is a link to another accusation toward the Jews that has been used for centuries to arouse hatred toward the Jews and has caused the murder of millions of Jewish people by those that were influenced by what the verse says and then people taking that into their minds could transfer their hate to Jews and target a Jew for violence. It is allowed to stand over my years of objections to the deputies and Mr Hsiung.
> You see, when Jews are put down/accused and it is allowed by the leaders of a community, a mind-set of hate could be induced into some that could cause them to kill others. And if the hate is anti-Semitic hate, that does not mean that only a Jew could be a target for murder. People under the influence of state-sponsored anti-Semitism could target other people that are different from them also, for the hate can be acted out on others also.
> Now to see this post go to the search box here and type in:
> [faith,832720]
> Now in the post that has the 832720 in the url, there will be a post that as links to bible passages. The first link in the post is John/25
> Now in that link see verse 53 which has,[they took counsel...].
> It does not take a mastermind to see the hatred of the historical nature that has been used by those that are taught that by their group. And readers here could be taught that also by the nature of the prohibitions to me by Mr Hsiung that repress my efforts to post educational material here to help people overcome hate. Readers here could think that the statement is supportive because it is allowed to stand.
> LouFriends and herpils,
It is asked of me where the anti-Semitism is here. To understand how anti-Semitism is fostered in a community, I have prepared an educational outline for those interested and had posted it here.
You do not have to be a mastermind to use the tactics that I am going to show you to arouse anti-Semitic feelings. These tactics have been used for thousands of years and are nothing new. In fact, hate groups use these tactics. I would like for you to read the list here and see if you recognize the tactics. Then one could have more understanding of where the anti-Semitism is.
Lou
To see this list:
Go to the search box here and type in:
[admin,844756]
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1041099
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