Posted by Solstice on February 26, 2012, at 13:56:01
In reply to Lou's reply-pstpdhtguy » Solstice, posted by Lou Pilder on February 26, 2012, at 13:07:05
> Sol,
> The concept of {keeping count} on what someone says, has historicl paralles that I am prohibited here by Mr. Hsiung to post about.
> Sometimes there are more than one post about the same thing because the poster is responding to more than one person at a time. Sometimes I will post a response that could entail having many posts that each bring in something different to the discussion, such as a doctor explaining something in a video that is IMO easier for members to understand and could bring out the point in question in a better light for people to see.
> But the forum is for all, it is public. This means that there could be people viewing the posts that are not participants in the thread or even in any thread, they just read the posts and do not post themselves. These people could be looking for information and I am trying to reach those people also. If I could, then they could have the information from me that IMHO could save their life or prevent them from getting a life-ruining condition or addiction.Lou -
I think this could be solved by you having your own thread - like the "Lou's Little Shoppe" idea, that is ongoing. It could even have some phrase in it that stays in every post you make that would be a tag likely to be found by people searching the internet. In any event, there is nothing stopping you from using this forum to have your own thread (or threads) to post about whatever interests you or that you think will interest others, even those who are not members of psychobabble. Even if you aren't getting much psychobabble participation, you could keep it going. If someone else has a thread about something that alarms you, you could post your one warning about medications, and a link to your own thread where you could re-post what you want to respond to, and you can keep it going for as long as you are happy with it producing what you want. That way, you are still exercising your freedom to post your concerns about medications, without being unduly disruptive to other threads. You very well may attract people outside babble, who could then read what you post, and if they want to find out more than what you have posted, they can join babble and babblemail you. I haven't tried to google you, but it appears you might be using your real name, so people could google you that way as well. If you have a facebook account, perhaps you could set that up as your information-hub about your concerns about medication. Bob would have no control over what you do on facebook.
I think you are placing an undue burden on yourself if you believe that you are responsible for saving the world. You can't possibly do that. If you believe you have good information, then you can make it available, but people generally don't respond well to being forced to swallow massive quantities of information that they are not seeking or are not open to receiving. One anti-med post in a thread is sufficient. Excessive posting about a particular dogma is not going to increase interest in the dogma.. it will likely irritate people and have them skipping over your posts entirely. Regardless, you are not responsible for saving the world.
> Now this brings up the concept of keeping count on me as to how many posts I make as to there could be some stopping me from posting after I post whatever amount of posts that you say could be prohibited here. If that happened, then those people wanting answers from me could have the potential IMO be killed because they could not get the answers from me after a particular number of posts by me, for the rule would cut me off.
That is really extreme, Lou. If you really believe that, then you need to start your own forum that has tags that would draw people searching for information about the dangers of medications. Then you could post a thousand times a day without it being disruptive. But when you are posting within a community of people, there is a social order that comes into play. It really is extreme, Lou, to think that you are responsible for ensuring that every single person out there who takes medications knows what you believe you have discovered about the dangers of medications.
> Now I do not consider it supportive to still anyone's voice here or anywhere else.It's not about 'stilling' your voice, as much as it is about preventing it from drowning out everyone else's. That's why I think you having your own on-going thread would work well. I doubt Bob would take issue with you posting repeatedly in your own thread. He would not allow anyone to be uncivil to you, and people who go there would be interested in discussing what you are interested in discussing, and you could direct them to your own private resources to give them what Bob won't allow you to post here.
Like it or not, belonging to a community requires 'community rules.' You can have whatever opinion you want, but you can't always freely express your opinions, even in a free country. Private groups like this one (it's publicly displayed, but is privately run), do not *have* to allow blanket 'free speech.'
> In fact, there could be a situation that if you do get such a rule here implemented, that if someone dies as a result of them not being allowed to see what I could have posted if not stopped, then could not you be held accountable for their death? If not, could you post here why not?I would absolutely Not be responsible for anyone's death if they failed to receive information as a result of rules that are put in place to protect my thread from being swallowed up by warnings of death and life-ruination if my child takes medications. Everyone is free to make their own choices - whether or not to take meds - and whether or not to seek information. And like I said - if you really want a soapbox that fits your needs, you need to have a facebook account or some other platform that you can link to. I think that what frustrates you is that you aren't eliciting the amount of interest that you want to elicit. But you need to know that overwhelming people with a message they have already heard for years, and have decided they aren't interested in, isn't going to convert them.
Honestly Lou, get your own thread going that focuses on the dangers of medications. People who are seeking information about such dangers would then have a 'one stop shoppe' to find it all right there, including a way to babblemail you for more, or click on a link to your facebook. There might be people out there who would be genuinely interested in what you have to say, but get turned off by all the drama created by some of your posting techniques.
One of your anti-med posts per thread (started by others) is sufficient to serve the purposes you have stated here.
Give it some thought..
Solstice
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