Posted by Dr. Bob on November 1, 2009, at 3:05:47
In reply to Re: I agree with Cactus - ) Dr. Bob » Kath, posted by cactus on October 31, 2009, at 17:28:24
> I can only speak for myself, but I would guess having that option/setting installed - from the registration/update registration - to have or not have Twitter/Facebook linking icons at the bottom of one's posts would keep people here and allow one post more supportively, and possibly bring back those who left.
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> For new users - as far as opting out rather than in - that should work as long as it is CLEARLY stated (as opposed to being covertly imbedded into some jargon) their posts could be linked to Facebook/Twitter using the icons if they choose to not opt out. You should also tell them their initial post will be tweeted out by you to welcome them.
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> psych chat> Yes, this seems like an excellent solution. I really hope this option is put into place. I would be satisfied.
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> fb> I think that would be a great alternative to have an "opt out" as part of our registration.
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> Would this opt out be applied to our older posts, or just the ones subsequent to the opt out?
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> Seldom.> is this option one that applies to the reader of the posts or the poster of the posts?
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> Dinah> YESSS Sounds very good.
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> So just to verify - would this mean that the 'default' would be 'no Facebook' & people would have to request somehow that the buttons be at the bottom of their posts?
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> KathThanks for working with me on this and supporting this plan. It should be working now. Here are links to the setting, the FAQ, and the consent:
http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/settings.pl
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#sharetweet
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/consent.htmlYour setting applies to all your posts. The posts you've posted, not the posts you read. It's opt-out, like the "do not share/tweet" list was. The default is buttons, and you can opt out of the buttons if you don't want them.
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> This would be acceptable for me, as long as people who respond or click on the twittered posts can't see us and our replies at all
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> Cactus> I agree & to me, this is an extremely important aspect.
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> If people join they can see all.
> If NOT - they can't - pretty simple & straightforward.
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> Kath> I don't think we can actually be removed from threads that we appear on once we have been twittered.
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> CactusSome of you may be unfamiliar with Twitter, which could be another source of anxiety. I should explain more. It might be worth a thousand words, so here's a "picture":
http://twitter.com/psycho_babel
That takes you to the "tweets" (posts to Twitter) by @psycho_babel (the @ indicates a Twitter username). You don't need a Twitter account to go there.
A tweet is a short text message. The text can include links. When "a post is tweeted", that whole web page doesn't show up on Twitter. All that's posted is a link and some text, either an excerpt or a request to welcome a new poster.
So that doesn't include replies. But if someone reads the tweet and clicks on the link, that brings them to Babble, and of course once they're here, they do see the whole page. Even if they haven't registered. Like Google doesn't show whole pages, but anyone can click on the links and see them.
> I had never thot of the google thing B4...
> I am going to try and be much more careful in future.
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> muffledPlease do try to keep in mind that this is a public forum. Maybe another way the new buttons can help is to remind people of that!
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> Bob, bigger is NOT always better.
> Having hordes descend into a group is NOT useful.
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> muffled> people specifically looking for a site like this from a need rather than from curiosity after reading a Facebooked or Tweeted post - Those people are the new people who I'd be glad to see arrive here.
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> I think that a large influx of new members over a short period of time isn't ideal. Who knows if that's what would result from Facebooking/Twittering.
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> KathI don't want hordes to descend, either. That could also be a source of anxiety. But I myself think it's unlikely, and if there are in fact hordes, the number of new registrations during a particular time period could be limited, and beyond that new people could be asked to wait.
Again, I have mixed feelings about us-them thinking. I think some Facebook and Twitter users feel a need for a site like this and some current Babble users are here because of curiosity. And some people may come out of curiosity, but stay because they feel a need.
Bob
PS: I haven't gotten to some posts yet, I'll reply to them later.
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