Posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2009, at 4:50:33
In reply to Re: vulnerable members, posted by Dr. Bob on August 11, 2009, at 3:27:00
> > I like this statement very much, "A community can be judged by the manner in which its most vulnerable members are treated. "
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> Me, too. One way of looking at it is that the most vulnerable members here are those who are unwilling or unable to be civil.
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> I also liked:
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> > > In the same way, a decent community will abstain from, and if necessary prevent, ridicule and scapegoating.
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> A decent community will be civil.
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> Scapegoating can be complicated, though, and the individual as well as the community may play (often unintentionally) a role.
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...the most vulnerable members here are those who are unwilling or unable to be civil...].
I do not feel comfortable when I read that statement of yours. I am afraid that others could make conclusions from what you wrote because of that there is the potential in my opinion for unspecified members to be the object members in your statement since you do not include spacific member's names. It is possible IMO that you could be referring to many members here for the community at large does not know the criteria that you use to determine which members fall in the catagory of unwilling or unable to be civil. If you could post here your rationale (criteria) that you use to lable a member unwilling or unable, then members could place themselves or not in your group that you are referring to and respond if they like to you.
It is my fear that others could take from what you wrote a form of stigmatization of the unspecified members in your statement, myself included, and that any mermber here IMO that has been told by you to be civil could potentially be thought to be in the catagory of the type of member that you write of here, myself being one of those members. I would need more than 3 consecutive posts to fully describe my feelings here concerning this type of statement that you posted here. I would like to post the historical parallels where that statement had been used and the results to the peoples and the community itself that had it's leader(s) make a statement of that nature.
I would also need answers from you to the numerous requests from me to you that are outstanding, and also the outstanding notifications, in order to fully post a response to your statement here in question that you posted so that it is to the community as a response to a member's post.
I think that it could be fair to me if you could post replies to all of the outstanding requests and such so that I could have the opportunity to respond to your statement in question here fully in order to defend myself from the potential IMO of being stigmatized by the statement in question and possibly be a victim of anti-Semitic violence since you at this time are unwilling to post in the threads a sanction to statements that could lead a Jew to feel accused or put down can be seen.
Lou Pilder
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