Posted by Estella on August 4, 2006, at 5:30:19
In reply to Re: Suggesting violence--**trigger: crude**, posted by cloudydaze on August 3, 2006, at 21:36:05
> Words are just encoded thoughts.
According to the ideational theory of meaning...
>In fact, there is no way to express exactly what one is thinking, because after the process of putting it into words (encoding) and reading it (decoding) the message gets jumbled anyway. So I don't see why it matters so much!
It matters because the ideational theory of meaning (in that simple version) is simply false. Thinking / Language isn't like that. Not literally.
Cognitive capacity (capacity to think) is very much tied up in verbal capacity. There is some debate as to whether people think in words (verbal form) or images (map like form). Typically... Sensory perception is considered to be maplike while higher cognition is considered to be more sentential.
The way you think about something and the words you use to express your thoughts are indeed very closely linked. We think about the world and we talk about the world. We express our thoughts in language.
>If you post that you are feeling like hurting yourself, that is an outward behavior, and can infringe on other's feelings.
Indeed.
> If it makes someone else feel better by posting that they are suicidal, then they should do it, regardless of how it makes ME feel.
How about if it makes someone else feel better to call me all kinds of names. Should they do it regardless of how it makes ME feel?
The purpose of the boards is support.The reason our freedom of speech is limited here is because the purpose of the boards is support.
It would be unsupportive if you were to say 'Estella you are fat and ugly and I wish you would go away'. Hence... Your freedom of speech is limited here. If it is any consolation... You know that other people aren't allowed to post things like that to you either. I think the purpose of the civility rules is to teach us how to be supportive. When we aren't supportive then we get warned / blocked. Sometimes... People don't have social supports because... People are uncivil. Both on the boards and IRL. There are people here who will happily Babble away and this is a good forum for giving and receiving support. Those who don't participate in the support... Those who accuse others... Who jump to conclusions about others intentions... Who attack others... Who are sarcastic to others... etc etc. Well... They either get the hang of not posting those kinds of posts or they end up blocked for a long time yeah.
I've never advocated changing that...
It is a little like...
How do I know what I think until I see / hear what I say?
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