Posted by 5 on March 4, 2006, at 2:00:01
In reply to Re: A try at re-wording, please?? » 5, posted by AuntieMel on March 3, 2006, at 10:17:05
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> > So, in this case, being a US citizen, I might view myself as a person with nukes, through my citizenship of a country that has nukes. If I did view myself that way, I might feel put down by the term hypocritical.
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> You might...
> Is it rational for you to do so?
> Should people be blocked because you (could) view things this way?> I'm hoping that you didn't mean that if someone finds offense here that they are being irrational?
You mean in this particular case or across the board?
I would say that it is irrational to take offence if someone critiques your favourite book...
I would say that it is irrational to take offence if someone critiques your favourite brand of therapy...
I would say that it is irrational to take offence if someone critiques your political ideal...I would.
And now... I imagine I'll probably get blocked for that.
Consider this...
Are phobia's irrational beliefs? They are often referred to as such. Do you have irrational beliefs? I know I sure as hell do. But I sure as hell don't think other people should be blocked for saying something that it is irrational for me to take offence to. You see... Feelings can be rational / irrational. aka more or less appropriate.
There is a literature on that...
It is about whether they are representing the relevant portion of the world accurately or inaccurately (according to their function).
If I feel accused if someone critiques my favourite book I'd say that is pretty irrational in the sense that someone is taking things overly personally. That they need to stop reading or whatever. Not campaign for a blocking for the person who is critiquing their favourite book.
But sometimes the truth can be uncivil...
And sometimes people just aren't smart enough to do the relevant cognitive gymnastics...
In this case I said 'irrational' because I was thinking there is something contradictory about the policy (if we are allowed to build in some basic moral law such as 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you) then saying 'yes for me and no for you does seem to be contradictory. And to the best of my knowledge contradictons are irrational (because beliefs are supposed to be true and contradictory states of affairs cannot obtain) and because emotions are supposed to be fitting to the circumstances and to take things overly personlly isn't so rational with respect to your having time and energy to devote to alternative issues...Was someone offended by what I said?
No.
Yet... As I've been learning probabilities are hard to falsify... You could say that there is a probability of 1 that people will feel offended / put down... And yet nobody might actually feel offended or put down. So... Maybe it is 'likely' babblers will feel accused / put down even though no babblers actually feel accused / put down (or possibly one or two).
Whatever.
I'm getting sick of this...
> As a person with a mental illness, I'm quite sensitive to the suggestion that anything I say is irrational. Too often people I know use that argument to dismiss things I try to say.
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