Posted by alexandra_k on December 28, 2005, at 3:27:06
In reply to Re: participating in person at workshops, posted by Dr. Bob on December 27, 2005, at 19:12:39
> I wasn't thinking that explicit informed consent would be needed.
And the relevant ethics committee sees it that way too?
> Posters are free to ask questions about it. And to discuss it with each other. Which might in some ways actually be an improvement on the usual informed consent process...
maybe... but how much more appropriate would both be?
> > Who is on that ethics committee Dr B?
> Sorry, which ethics committee?hmm...
wiki just keeps on changing...i guess there would be an ethics committee to check that there is a process of informed consent for people participating in research. there should be procedures for obtaining that... and consideration of whether 'informed consent' can be given... lets suppose someone managed to get day leave from psych hospital to come along to the presentation and things went badly... were they in a position to provide 'informed consent' when they were under section? how about making an informed decision regarding participation? assessing possible risk etc? people are inclined to trust you you know... yet are you accountable for your conduct? it's not as simple as you think it will probably be alright so it will be alright. an ethics committee might see it differently... sounds like you aren't giving them the opportunity to consider it...
or...
who decides this isn't research?
> While Hsiung states that he no longer conducts research at the site and his administration of it is no longer reviewed by an Institutional Review Board, he continues to link to his research papers and book, continues to advise contributors that he "may publish case studies on his web site or in a book or an academic journal," and continues to make professional presentations based on the site. He has even stated that this Wikipedia article may be a handout at such presentations.
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> I don't think it'll go badly, and if it does, I think we'll be able to deal with it.
well... if you think people are likely to see it that way... then why not do it by the book with informed consent?
you would have to do this if you were dealing with transcripts of what they were saying would you not?
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