Posted by shar on August 22, 2003, at 12:42:08
In reply to Re: Two Blocks, so far, posted by Dr. Bob on August 22, 2003, at 2:42:23
> > Two people have recently been blocked because IMO they were offended and played with, and afterward, deemed uncivil.
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> 1. They were blocked because they posted comments I deemed uncivil. The idea here is to be civil even if you're offended.
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> 2. But if they had in fact been "played with" or offended, I should've addressed that, too. Can you show me where that happened? After their PBCs?.........well, I didn't see where Zen even got a PBC, unless it was a long time ago, and this block is just being tacked on because she was blocked previously for something else.
.......and for Nikki, I agree with the poster who stated that she used and "I" statement to indicate her opinion that what was done to her was nasty (not nice or supportive). And, IMO, it was not the first time she was not supportively treated by the same poster.
.........maybe the issue is wording. For example, I believe that Lou has characterized Nikki in a very negative fashion, but he has done it in a rather covert fashion and there have been no consequences. To wit:
"The phrase [nasty piece of work] also goes back to the period of time in England when England was anti-Semitic. The king had made an edict in 1290 expelling the jews and England's writers reflect that in William Shakespear's "Merchant of Venice". Those that want to say that Shakespere was not anti-Semitic say that he wrote the play only to accomodate the anti-Semitism of his day. I consider that the same."
"Shakespear used the phrase, "piece of work" in Hamlet. It was a refeerence to something made. When the phrase is used tpward a person, such as Lou, You are a nasty piece of work. then it is saying that what was made is nasty. Humans are made by God according to the people that used that phrase in 1600 or so in England. So it meant that God made me a nasty piece of work. My friends from Hull, England have emailed me about this and say it is worse to call someone a nasty piece of work today."
.........Thus, while nothing was ever said like "Nikki was anti-semitic and what she did was insensitive, and even worse today than it was in the olden days" that is certainly the message. At least as far as I'm concerned.
........This type of covert messaging happens quite frequently by this poster, but is allowed to continue because (I assume) it doesn't come right out and make a statement. Just general references to how something (in this case) was anti-semitic in the past, and done by a poster today, and even worse than it used to be (as the friends from Hull pointed out)...but wrapped up in enough words to be (apparently) acceptable.
......That's all from this quarter. And, just MHO, and not trying to insult or put down anyone. Just a different perspective about how even incivility can be done in seemingly "innocent" ways.
Shar
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