Posted by Escapee on September 17, 2016, at 23:13:49
In reply to Re: 2 Psycho / CNS stimulants you may not be aware of, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 17, 2016, at 20:29:24
I have always suffered from Hypersomnia, whether depressed or not. I have bought adrafinil in the past (long time ago) but it did nothing. I was on phenelzine at the time and after a while the initial energizing effect wore off & I couldn't wake up in the mornings. 16+hrs sleep. But I think the adrafinil pills might have been duds.
I was put on Modafinil in the past and that worked for 2-3 days. Its was not an everyday fix for lack of mental energy, not for me so I didn't find it very useful really. Good for as-needed use perhaps. I remember the 1st day I tried it. My partner & I were walking dogs from our local dogs home. I remember feeling lighter and glowy. I ran with the dogs and played catch with them. Felt more outgoing. I built fast tolerance to it though. Went high with the dosage, well over the max. Did nothing worth while.
These meds are pretty well known. But I've never seen anyone write about racetams here. Not even Piracetam. A medication used for Alzheimer's & other memory related disorders. The rest of the racetams seem to be simply left under the heading 'test chemicals'. But they are very popular on other sites & for many people especially those studying.
They all work by increasing/enhancing one's mental energy, usually via the neurotransmitter Acetylcholine. The 'memory' molecule. Enhancing not just memory but also alertness, wakefulness, focus, learning, etc, etc...
But each is different, unique from the next. Many also effecting the usual brain-chems talked about on this site. Including dopamine.I personally take the nootropics oxiracetam, citicoline, ALCAR, omega 3s, ginkgo & guarana daily. Centrophenoxine is another favourite of mine but pretty expensive. Oxiracetam is my most favourite, its never let me down on wakefulness. Its helped me see through the frequent smog of clonazepam. I sleep less. I talk more 'without' forgetting what I was saying half way through a sentence. I also focus more on the here & now and the job in hand, rather than what others are thinking & doing. Helpful for my SA.
Aniracetam is another racetam nootropic, but its more of a calming effect instead, but still enhancing focus, memory, etc, etc... I have given it a good go but its not for me. Its very effective for some.
There are several other racetam nootropics; Piracetam, Coluracetam, Fasoracetam, Nefiracetam.
And there are heaps of other nootropics. Indeed both Adrafinil & Modafinil are nootropics, Fladrafinil too of course though its a more recent addition with hardly any differences to it's cousins.
And some are mentioned here a lot. Picamilon, L-theanine, sulbutiamine, tianeptine, choline, Omega 3s, DMAE, sunifiram, phenibut, ALCAR, alpha-GPC, vinpocetine, ginkgo, inositol and the list goes on. Some are drugs, others nutrients. And some you could call 'in between'. Also, there are some nootropics which focus more on neuro-protection than on enhancement. The majority do both.
And other drugs you wouldn't even think of as being nootropics like nicotine, caffeine & amphetamines.
Some antidepressants appear to have nootropic effects, at least partly. The NRIs in particular.
I am extremely surprised that nootropics are hardly ever spoken about here. Unless I'm missing something. Yes many are spoken about like modafinil, L-Theanine & Picamilon, but not in the context of being nootropics.
Of course it always needs to be said that everyone is different and each will have different experiences from these chemicals.
And if you intend on trying any of these (often potent) chemicals, please be sensible about it.But I tell ya, so many people are missing out. Ah well.
Escapee
Amitriptyline 100mg
Bupropion(Wellbutrin/Zyban)300mg
Quetiapine(Seroquel)150mg
Clonazepam(Klonopin/Rivotril)3mg
Pregabalin(Lyrica)400mg
Phenelzine(Nardil)45mg
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