Posted by linkadge on April 15, 2016, at 18:07:58
In reply to Re: medication: high cholesterol and triglycerides? » linkadge, posted by J Kelly on April 15, 2016, at 12:18:26
>I was in a complete psychotic break for nine >months. I thought people were living in my >attic. I was not only able to have "normal" >conversations with people but I fooled psych >docs and nurses in two psych hospitals as well. >I was a very clever psychotic.
So, your psychotic break was from parnate? From my experiences, med induced psychotic breaks can be much different from actual schizophrenia. Parante seriously messes with sleep cycles and can virtually completely supress rem sleep. Lack of rem sleep can cause psychotic type thinking in healthy individuals in only a few nights.
I should clarify that paranoid type psychosis(which tends to respond better to antipsychotics) often retains better cognitive function than those with disorganized type schizophrenia. However, paranoid type psychosis is more commonly associated with stimulants (and in this case MAOIs).
However, most people suffering natural course, schizophrenia, in a frankly psychotic state, will have difficulty hiding this. They may be able to hide certain delusions (which they feel they may be ridiculed for) but there are usually other indicators in their speech / thought process (or behavior).
For instance, spending time in the hospital with individuals who were hospitalized with schizophrenia, it is usually pretty obvious.
>Same here except it was Geodon. I'll never >forget the severe anxiety I felt (either from >the parnate w/d or the Geodon, not sure).
Geodon has some monoamine reuptake inhibiting capabilities. It is not the best antipsychotic to take during MAOI withdrawl (possible serotonin syndrome).
>Same. Although I've taken high doses of Ritalin >and never came close to being psychotic (that I >know of).
I take Ritalin too (low doses) and like you have never had a psychotic break. Ritalin doesn't supress REM sleep to the same extent as an MAOI.
>Out of desperation, I'm currently trialing >Nardil. I'm on 5mg Zyprexa and hoping that will >cover me. Fingers crossed.
Good luck. You've got a good doc that would let you try an MAOI again! Nardil may be a bit milder in that sense. It has a GABAergic metabolite (but then again it also metabolizes to PEA - the brains own version of amphetamine). You might want to try lower doses, and possibly skip doses if you feel strange thinking returning. The Zyprexa should help.
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