Posted by Tabitha on March 25, 2016, at 15:24:15
In reply to Lou's reply-an abuse of power » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 25, 2016, at 5:41:01
> > Saving lives is a good goal. I think Dr Bob and everyone here shares that goal. We just disagree about how best to go about it.
> >
> > Tabitha,
> You wrote that you think that Mr. Hsiung and everyone here shares your goal of wanting to save lives here...].
> I am unsure as to how you make that claim.
Well it's almost self-evident to me that people creating or participating in a mental health support forum want to save lives and reduce suffering. But I can spell out my reasoning:1. People here share information and encouragement to get medical treatment for mental illness. Mental illness carries a risk of suicide (for instance 6-15% lifetime risk for bipolar), and medication reduces the risk (see citation below). Thus I assume people want to save lives.
2. When someone in the group is suicidal, people provide emotional support and advise medical intervention. Dr Bob has even notified authorities resulting in home checks on people who indicated risk of suicide in their posts. Thus I assume people want to save lives.
3. When someone in the group does commit suicide, people are very distressed and sad. Thus I assume people want to save lives.
====There is good evidence that medication reduces suicide risk for people with mental health conditions, such as this study summarizing 20 years worth of clinical trials on lithium:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504869/
From this paper: "One of the first descriptions of lithiums anti-suicidal properties is dated back to 1972 when Barraclough described the current and past clinical history of 100 suicide cases. He postulated that as many as a fifth of these suicides may have been prevented if lithium had been used."
> If you could post answers to the following, then I could respond accordingly.
> True or False:
> A. Antisemitic statements being allowed to be seen here as supportive by Mr. Hsiung will save lives here.
> B. Defamation posted here against you, Lou, being allowed by Mr. Hsiung will save lives here.I can't answer because for nearly all the statements, there is an assumption built into the question that I think is false. It is like this question "Answer true or false. I have stopped kicking puppies". I don't kick puppies, so I can't really answer true or false to a question that assumes I kick puppies.
Do you like puppies?
poster:Tabitha
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