Posted by hello321 on October 4, 2015, at 17:09:49
In reply to Re: Shooters and Psychiatry, posted by SLS on October 4, 2015, at 14:30:55
> > Interestingly, the rate has been going down steadily since the
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> After reviewing the chart further, I don't understand how anyone would try to use it to make an argument that increased antidepressant use is associated with higher rates of violent crimes.
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> 1. Within a few years of the release of Prozac, violent crimes have gone down steadily.
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> 2. The media attention paid to Prozac and depression beginning in 1988 produced a large increase in antidepressant prescriptions. I believe it is at least 400%.
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> http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624
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> Wouldn't one expect an increase in the rate of violent crimes by 400% if antidepressants were responsible for producing them? Instead, there is a significant reduction. How can this be?
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> The statistic I haven't seen yet is the proportion of people that take antidepressants who go on to commit suicide or violent crimes. If you line up 100 people who take antidepressants, how many of them will suffer negative behavioral reactions? What if it is only 3*? The media attention paid to those 3 will be greatly exaggerated and make antidepressants seem like prolific killers. Perhaps negative reactions can be screened for more closely by doctors early in treatment. Weekly or biweekly evaluations might be indicated.
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> * I have no idea what this number really is. Maybe someone can produce this statistic.
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> More interesting statistics:
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> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db76.htm
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> - Scott
I didn't post those numbers to prove any point. I just posted them for us to look.But the rate of violent crimes continued to increase even after Prozac quickly became a blockbuster soon after it was released. Then a very slight decrease of 0.6 violent crimes came in 1992. Then it further decreased to 746.8 from 757.5 per 100,000 in 1993. In early 1994 the Brady Bill was passed, which mandated federal background checks and a 5 day waiting period for gun purchases, until instant background checks were implemented in 1998. Other nations with stricter gun control laws have much lower homicide rates than the United States. Even with antidepressant use being lower or much lower in these nations compared to the USA.
Http://www.businessinsider.com/canada-australia-japan-britain-gun-control-2013-1
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