Posted by SLS on October 3, 2015, at 9:15:09
In reply to Re: My doc presribed nortriptyline. Wish me luck., posted by bleauberry on October 3, 2015, at 6:23:09
> > > The seroquel and zyprexa can tend to numb out, drown out, or block, any beneficial stuff you get from the other drugs, so it will be hard to feel significant improvement.
> > I very much disagree with this. What can you provide to support your contention?
> I respect your disagreement. I hold true to mine.
> That is at the core what antipsychotics do
Can you support even this statement.
> ....they block a lot of things...things that were never intended to be blocked.
Like what?
> We would be hard pressed to find many people that would say antipsychotics did not numb them out or block the effects of say a stimulant or whatever.
We might want to support this statement as well.
I think I have taken all of the atypical antipsychotics (a terrible distinction for anyone). I am on one now. No numbing. No blocking of the stimulant effects of Parnate. A friend of mine could not achieve an energetic remission of schizoaffective disorder until a second antipsychotic was added.
We can find instances where an antipsychotic and stimulant are prescribed at the same time, especially in cases where schizophrenia and ADHD are comorbid.
> In the trauma rooms when immediate control is needed....numb the patient, calm them down, top choices are usually antipsychotics or benzos.
Is this meant to support the things you said earlier in this post? Okay. What drugs reliably produce numbness as opposed to calmness? Risperdal maybe. Older antipsychotics maybe. What about all the others? If they do not numb the majority of people, then your assertion is in error.
> > > The seroquel and zyprexa can tend to numb out, drown out, or block, any beneficial stuff you get from the other drugs, so it will be hard to feel significant improvement.
For you? For me? For who? Data? Support?
I believe you to be in error.
Name one AAP that does this in the majority of people?
Anecdotal:
* SSRI or SNRI + Abilify = no depression - lots of energy.
* Nardil + Zyprexa = no depression - lots of energy.
* Zyprexa alone = improved depression and cognition.
* Saphris produced an antidepressant effect* Latuda and Seroquel are approved for bipolar depression.
* Abilify, when added to an antidepressant - approved for depression.I am at a loss as to why you would say such things.
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