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Re: Young people on SSRI's commit more crimes? » Hello321

Posted by europerep on September 17, 2015, at 5:53:26

In reply to Re: Young people on SSRI's commit more crimes?, posted by Hello321 on September 16, 2015, at 20:36:18

> The possible effect of an antidepressant causing lack of concern for ones wellbeing im referring to has been warned about by every governing agency.

The DMV? The EPA? The NOAA Fisheries? Ok, I don't want to be overly disingenuous here, I just want to point out the absurdity of your statement.


> It is written about clearly on every medication guide handed out to the patient. Im referring to the possibility of the prescription that has been prescribed by a well-meaning prescriber causing the taker to feel a strong/stronger desire to end their life.

Are you talking about the black box warnings on SSRIs? In that case you should limit your claim to SSRIs, rather than antidepressants as a whole. Or are you referring to the fact that in rare cases, when mood brightening takes longer to kick in than an increase in motivation in patients already harboring suicidal thoughts, these patients may experience increased suicidality and then possibly commit suicide? This can indeed happen, but it requires a lot of very specific circumstances (plus possibly errors on behalf of the prescriber), so making a statement as general and clear-cut as you made in your initial post is most certainly problematic.


> But it does happen and those who have a strong enough suicidal urge induced by the treatment simply arent here to post about it.

Actually, a lot of people, including me, have reported experiencing a worsening of depression on certain drugs on this board. Yes, none of us did actually proceed to commit suicide in those circumstances, but the phenomenon is certainly not unknown.


> Its awesome when something like Celexa works as intended it increases the takers wellbeing, as some of you experienced. But what happens when someone experiences a worsening of their depression because of a medication like Celexa? What if their hopelessness, irritability and impulsiveness become worse because of the effect the med is having on their brain function? Sometimes these symptoms can get so bad that the one taking the med that feels the world is against them and that there is no way out. Am i wrong? And what can feeling like this lead to?

You're not necessarily wrong, but what should be the conclusion? That we do not prescribe antidepressants at all anymore until we fully understand the (patho)physiology of the human brain? I really don't get your point in making all these claims about psychiatric drugs. I think there is much much more evidence (including on this board) for the terrible, devastating and life-threatening effects of untreated depression than there is for serious, irreversible or possibly fatal effects or side-effects. If you want to change our views on that, you really need more than absurd statements like the above that can be so easily disproven.

 

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