Posted by Robert_Burton_1621 on July 7, 2015, at 11:19:33
In reply to Re: Mania, med reactions, the DSMV + rapid cycling!, posted by bleauberry on July 6, 2015, at 11:58:53
> Wow, I apologize in advance, but I have to say it again. I'm tired of saying it. It sounds nuts.
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> What you just described in your post, has already been written by millions of other people, almost word for word. Substitute different med names, but the stories are basically identical.
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> Those people I am talking about, are the ones that had Lyme disease and didn't know it. Or another similar stealth unsuspected hidden undiagnosable pathogen wreaking havoc in the brain. No matter, they all respond to the exact same treatment, so we need not even know for sure the name of the exact enemy. Just the family they are from. The family called "infection" is good enough.
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> Seriously, try surfing the web and check out some Lyme blogs, some Lyme chats, roam around, explore....LLMDs....I think you will find yourself being described with so many of those stories.
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> The key things I saw in your post that raised a red flag for infection were:
> 1)Chronic long time
> 2)Treatment not successful
> 3)Difficult to give it a diagnostic name
> 4)I bet you have lots of other symptoms you didn't mention
> 5)Cycling
> 6)Medication sensitivity that causes either bizarre side effects, can't take normal doses, or actually makes you worse than you were.
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> All of this looks so complicated, so bizarre, so mysterious, no wonder MDs can't get you better!
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> My opinion is that you do not have a psychiatric condition. You have psychiatric symptoms. Caused by the poop, pee, enzymes, and toxins, contaminating serotonin and dopamine, blocking receptors.
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> My Lyme doctors both claimed that 9 out 10 of their chronically ill psychiatric patients (always inherited from failed MDs) got remarkably or completely better when the strategy was anti-infection anti toxin rather than anti depression. The depression just automatically disappears as population levels come down over time. Me...3 years treatment....most people 3-9 months.
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> I guess maybe to make a long story short, I could maybe phrase it this way:
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> WHEN PSYCHIATRIC MEDICINES FAIL, TRY ANTIBIOTICS!
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> It is 100% true the above statement saved my life from psychiatry. The best drugs man has, the best ECT man has....useless compared to antibiotics. My story. And millions of others. Probably 9 out 10 at psychobabble are consistent with this scenario.
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> IMOI'm pleased to hear of your story, and your correct diagnosis leading to the prescription of antibiotics (what kind?).
However, I would caution against universalising your experience, especially with the citation of purported statistical evidence for which you provide no reputable source.
It might also be instructive for you to be aware of what strikes me as the Americo-centric assumptions of your post. "Lyme disease" is not a pathology which, for instance, is a major - or even minor - medical burden in Australia, if it exists here at all.
You also omit to outline the acute physicial symptoms of lyme disease which point to bacteriological infection, in particular fever and erythema migrans. There is no evidence at all that such primary symptoms occur in depressive or other psychiatric illnesses, and are surely markers for differential diagnosis.
You also omit, in your recommendation of antibiotic treatment as a panacea for depression, to consider the vast overuse of antibiotics for conditions which they cannot treat, and the consequential phenomenon of antibiotic resistance which is becoming more serious in hospital settings.
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