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Re: Effexor + Mirtazapine MORE effective than PARNATE!

Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 14, 2015, at 9:35:12

In reply to Re: Effexor + Mirtazapine MORE effective than PARNATE!, posted by burial on February 14, 2015, at 8:54:45

>According to this study, venlafaxine occupies 60% of NET and it may be that the metabolite, desvenlafaxine gives even more NET.

With venlafaxine, occupancy of NET appears to be a function of the dose. Occupancy is significant at high doses. Occupancy of SERI is high across the entire dose range, and very high at high doses.

>it may be that the metabolite, desvenlafaxine gives even more NET.

The 60% figure should refer to the total occupancy/inhibtion, I would imagine, not occupancy only by venlafaxine itself. Unfortunately, a blood test was used in this study as an estimate of NET occupancy. PET scans provide a better estimate.

>I once read a study that desipramine occupied 80% of NET so it isn't that huge of a difference

I think that's about right. The difference could well be significant though. For SSRIs, as an example, 60% SERT occupancy may be right at the bottom end of clinically effective inhibition. In fact, some studies have suggested that effective SSRI doses usually produce around 80% occupany, with 85-90%+ at high doses. Whether similar percentages apply to NET occupancy is unclear.

 

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