Posted by bleauberry on January 14, 2014, at 14:56:33
In reply to Cannabis induced psychosis?, posted by revv33 on January 13, 2014, at 13:57:46
There is not enough research to back up anyone's opinion on this topic regardless what side of the debate they take. The existing data can be cherry picked, or interpreted, in a way an author would like it to be. So going down that road, as a previous poster wisely said, isn't going to be of much help.
Ok. Your original question. Can you ever recover from psychosis without meds?
You will have to decide for yourself. In my journeys I have seen it happen twice.
The first case is a woman that was on antipsychotics and other meds for most of her life, never adequately stabilized on them, crazy life, they blamed it on something gone wrong at birth or genes or something. No joke....she came to know Jesus at a church I was going to (I got to witness this story in real time). Within 8 months time, her meds were gone, and she was out on a new life. I'm sure she might always have some background nuisance symptoms to deal, or maybe not, she looked absolutely perfectly fine. Jesus does still do miracles.
She kept repeating to herself the whole time that she was going to be healed. Blind faith. That's the kind of faith it takes. Jesus told us that those who believe though they have not see are blessed. The more "in alignment" with Jesus we become, the more we can manage all the problems in our lives, including our symptoms.
As I said. You have to decide. Her life-long schizophrenia with psychosis was gone. The only thing that changed was she went to church and she asked Jesus to be the guide.
I do recall it was rocky roads during the time period she was actually weaning off the meds. She got help there too.
The second example is me. I used to talk to one or two people I could trust in and tell them just how friggin crazy my mind was. I knew it was. But I couldn't help it. The anxiety, the paranoia, the akathisia, the terror, the whatever it was, the "feeling crazy" stuff was just intense. I always tried to hide it when others were around, but damn, what a paranoid crazy I was!
With the benefit of hindsight, it appears those symptoms came from the organism Bartonella. That is one of the common co-infections from ticks. That particular pathogen somehow causes a cluster of psychiatric symptoms more than the primary lyme pathogen called borrellia, or the other co-infection called babesia which is a parasite. It too is a psychiatric bug, but has night sweats as a prominent marker, and I still have night sweats, diminished from what they were, and so my work is not done.
Of curious note, my psychiatric stuff did not improve much while treating the primary lyme organism borrellia, but improved notably treating its partner in crime bartonella.
My schizophrenic and paranoia stuff went away with several months of antibiotics. The anxiety and depression were more stubborn, and they appear to be more related to the toxins involved rather than the actual bugs. The anxiety is all but gone, only surfaces during a bad Herx reaction, and the depression is mostly gone....anhedonia was my most dominant symptom all those years, is much improved, but appears to be the last symptom to go.
So anyway, yes, it has happened. People have recovered from really bad psychiatric symptoms of all kinds including the entire schizo spectrum. In both examples, it did not happen by accident. In both cases there was a purposeful persistent effort involved. What I find interesting are two things:
1. Jesus is real and He still does miracles.
2. Two totally different healing paths went to the same improved outcome. Actually I think the Jesus path was a lot better than mine. I need to increase my dose of Him!> I was wondering how do you know if your psychosis is from cannabis?
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> does psychosis usually happen right after smoking or not?
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> does anyone know?
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