Posted by Lou Pilder on January 10, 2014, at 21:54:55 [reposted on January 10, 2014, at 23:24:17 | original URL]
In reply to Lou's response- » linkadge, posted by Lou Pilder on January 10, 2014, at 21:25:09
> > The only two medications that have been proven to reduce the risk of suicide are clozapine (an antipsychotic) and lithium.
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> > Ask your doctor about both. The combination can work very well for schizoaffective.
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> > Linkadge
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> Friends,
> It is written here that clozaril is a drug proven to reduce the risk of suicide...
> Let us reason together here. First, how is it been proven that Clozaril has been proven to reduce the risk of suicide? Do you know?
> What happened was that there was a study in suicide prevention between Clozaril and another drug and there were less attempts , of the suicide group, hospitalizations and interventions with those taking Clozaril. Does that prove that Clozaril is a proven treatment for suicide prevention? If you ranked all the drugs and the number of suicides, one drug would be the last and one would be the first. That does not prove that the drug is a causation to anything. Now if there were 1000 studies, that may be different if all the studies showed one drug correlated with the fewest suicides.
> Clozaril can cause death by agranulocytosis and by heart attack and other adverse effects. If you think that Clozaril is an anti suicide pill, which means that one in suicidal thinking can take the drug and the suicidal thinking will vanish, be advised that the study did not show that and if it was an anti suicide pill, the U.S. army would not be trying to produce one.
> Mothers, do not be deceived. KNow all the facts before you drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor.
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/clozaril/deathFriends,
Let us reason together. There is a generally agreed statistic that about 7 1/2 % of the people that take Clozaril have death. Suppose there was a weight loss drug and 7 1/2 % of the people that took it died. Would they take the drug off the market? And what if that drug caused death by agranulocytosis or heart failure?
Now suppose there was a frozen food called, let's say, Pappa Lou's Famous Meatballs and Pasta. And let's suppose out of every 1000 people that ate Lou's meatballs and pasta, 75 of them died. Would that pasta be allowed to be sold?
Lou
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