Psycho-Babble Medication | about biological treatments | Framed
This thread | Show all | Post follow-up | Start new thread | List of forums | Search | FAQ

Re: Nardil agitation, depression, suicidal thoughts » Daniell

Posted by ed_uk2010 on May 26, 2013, at 9:40:30

In reply to Nardil agitation, depression, suicidal thoughts, posted by Daniell on April 30, 2013, at 15:27:46

Your reaction on 60mg Nardil does resemble serotonin syndrome. Have you taken any other antidepresssants recently? Or tramadol (Zydol, a painkiller), or any other prescription medicines, over the counter medicines (esp. cough/cold medicines), supplements or herbal medicines?

On the day you woke up so unwell, or in the days before, had you taken any other tablet/capsule of any type? The apparently abrupt onset of your severe symptoms is suggestive of a drug interaction. Might you have taken a venlafaxine or SSRI tablet by mistake? That might cause a similar reaction for a person on Nardil.

Nardil has some serious drug interactions so you need to be very careful before taking other medications whilst on it, and for 2 to 3 weeks after stopping it. Similarly, certain other medicines such as SSRI antidepressants need to be stopped for several weeks before starting Nardil (the exact time depending on the specific medication).

>I must have had a mild case of serotonin syndrome, which surely means that MAO is inhibited to quite a high degree?

Yes, I expect that it was.

>I'm only around 55 Kg and I was thinking quite possibly I am sensitive to this medicine such that a lower dose might be better?

Your reaction to 60mg suggests that 45mg would be the maximum safe dose for you to take, unless your reaction to 60mg was due to a drug interaction.

>Also, people say that once 80-90% MAO inhibition is achieved, therapeutic response will be seen.

They do, but I wouldn't really consider that too much because it's impossible to know exactly what Nardil is doing in your brain. You can only assess response according to your symptoms.

>Will Nardil work for me if I wait for the agitation/severe depression to go away then stick it out at a lower dose?

Your symptoms on 60mg suggest either of 2 possibilities:

1. That 60mg was far too much for you personally.
2. You experienced a drug interaction.

You should not have to endure such severe symptoms. If you wish to restart Nardil, you should start at a low dose such as 15mg twice a day and then increase gradually up to a maximum of 15mg three times a day. Considering your low bodyweight and previous reaction, I would not take more than 15mg three times a day during your initial trial. Avoid other medicines before, during and for 2-3 weeks after your trial of Nardil unless you have checked with your doctor and pharmacist that they are safe.

 

Thread

 

Post a new follow-up

Your message only Include above post


Notify the administrators

They will then review this post with the posting guidelines in mind.

To contact them about something other than this post, please use this form instead.

 

Start a new thread

 
Google
dr-bob.org www
Search options and examples
[amazon] for
in

This thread | Show all | Post follow-up | Start new thread | FAQ
Psycho-Babble Medication | Framed

poster:ed_uk2010 thread:1042961
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20130501/msgs/1044250.html