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Re: Antidepressants and suicide - Corrections

Posted by Willful on May 16, 2013, at 9:42:31

In reply to Re: Antidepressants and suicide - Corrections, posted by SLS on May 16, 2013, at 0:15:39

As SLS says, if you read the results they say the following

"these medications pose a 2-fold (4% vs 2%) increased risk for suicidal behavior or suicidal ideation, although no suicides were reported."

This is a bit confusing I think, but I would read an increased risk of a certain percentage as depending on the general rate of risk, which rises by a certain amount (percentage) when drugs are used. (Why use of a placebo increases the risk is something I don't understand-- if that is what the 2% is).


A" 2-fold (4%vs2%) increased risk" means the BASE RISK of suicide for children and adolescents is increased by 2 or 4 percent--and depends on what the base risk among children and adolescents is-- to know for example-- what the actual number of risk is, by what number the risk actually increases.

It leaves unclear to me, at least, what 'suicidal behavior' is-- is it actually trying to kill yourself, or does it include just making plans, buying or saving something to use, etc, without actually making an attempt? It also, presumably, includes failed attempts-- so deriving anything about an increase the increased risk of a successful suicide --or the increase in the number of successful suicides--from this is wouldn't be possible.


At least that's how I read it. I guess I'd have to read more of the study to understand exactly what it meant.

Willful


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