Posted by Lou Pilder on November 3, 2012, at 9:53:29
In reply to Re: Lou's response-nowlizdahtym, posted by neuroscience on November 3, 2012, at 8:04:26
> > > I started taking clonazepam about three months ago to assist with insomnia. I started on 1mg at night and ultimately ended up on 2mg.
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> > > Anyway, it didn't seem to help much (with sleep or anxiety), so I started cutting down by 0.5mg a week. I was finally on 0.25mg for the past two weeks and stopped completely two days ago.
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> > > I also cut my Memantine dose down to 5mg ten days ago. Now when I initially tried Memantine at 5mg, it was causing some anxiety, but for the past two days I've been feeling incredibly restless, jittery and uncomfortable (like I'm crawling out of my skin). My psychiatrist said 0.25mg was quite a small dose, but I tend to be sensitive to medication in general, so could I possibly be going through withdrawal?
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> > > It's rather unpleasant, so if so, how long could I anticipate it lasting?
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> > g_g_g unit,
> > You asked, how long? What you are experiancing could be the beginning of sorrows. You see, the benzodiazepine that you have been taking can induce addiction in as few as 7 days and withdrawal can happen when you stop the drug. The withdrawal period can induce a mind-altered state to compel one to kill themselves amd/or others.
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> If I felt better right now I'd add more in reply, but, this mind-altered state, it's ambiguous as you put it though, with no explanation.
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> Of the cases I've read of these drugs causing someone to be suicidal/homicidal at their cessation (usually abrupt cessation), the given explanations were akathisia, an acute withdrawal induced akathisia; psychosis (I'm supposing mixed with akathisia). I think because of the way these drugs work sometimes, inhibition perhaps plays a role.
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> g_g_g_unit will be fine though. It's probably withdrawal form klonopin. And it's hardly sounding as a disastrous withdrawal.
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> Lou maybe you want to really help people. But telling people here that you can't because Dr. Bob won't let you, isn't helping people imo.
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> n_s
You wrote about the mind-altered state that one can be in when they are in the withdraweal phsae from mind-altering drugs as being ambiguous with no explanation. Yo say the poster will be fine and that it doesn't help to post the fact that Mr Hiung has posted prohbitions to me here.
On the contrary, my friend. You see, when a person's speech is supressed to where they can not post what hey think could help others withdrawal without killing themselves, then an indoctrination could happen which could lead the person to think that there is not hope from the perspective that is prohibited to be posted. That could lead the person in a direction away from their chance to be healed and prevent a life-ruining condition or death by the nature that they are prohibited from learning from me which it has been revaled to me a way that could lead the person to freedom from addiction without the risk of getting a life-ruining condition or a substituted addiction from other drugs, or death. e
You see, I think that I have an obligation to post truth here. Truth that IMHO could mark the difference between life and death and that if one knows that I am prohibited from doing that, then I have done what I could to help. You say that the member will be fine. There are people that have withdrawal symptoms from BZDs for a very long time. They are not fine in that state at all. There are cases of suicide in the withdrawal phase as you say is when they have akathisia. I hae read cases where people in withdrawal think that they will never recover out of it and kill themselves in a compeled type of suicide. This is a dangerous period where peopole do kill themselves and I am posting that fact so the member could take heed and not be deceived into thinking that the chance of suicide is not there. I want them to know that now, not after it is too late.
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/clonazepam/suicidal+thoughts
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