Posted by Tomatheus on July 14, 2012, at 15:36:10
In reply to Re: What helps with social anhedonia., posted by DK79 on July 14, 2012, at 12:40:50
> What would be the difference in taking phenylethylamine vs. dl-phenylalanine vs. d-phenylalanine (seems like the latter one is harder to find for some reason)?
DK79,
The vast majority of what I know about phenylethylamine, dl-phenylalanine, and d-phenylalanine (and also l-phenylalanine) is based on anecdotal reports that I've read on the Web, so it might be that somebody else here could give a better response than I can, but I'll try to respond as well as I can. I know that phenylethylamine has an extremely short half-life and that one review that I've read from someone who's taken the supplement contends that its effects only last approximately 5-10 minutes. I have, however, heard good things about combining phenylethylamine with selegiline, and I've also heard from others who've taken phenylethylamine for at least several weeks with good results. My guess would be that the effects of phenylalanine (in the l, d, or dl form) probably last longer for most people than the effects of phenylethylamine do, but that is just a generalization based on anecdotal reports that I've read over the years. I myself have taken dl-phenylalanine and l-phenylalanine, but not d-phenylalanine or phenylethylamine. This will probably sound strange, but I didn't respond at all to dl-phenlyalanine when I took it (my anergic/vegetative depression was very severe at the time, and I did not have psychotic symptoms then), and when I took l-phenylalanine, I had a decent response to it that lasted about a week (my anergic/vegetative depression was more moderate at the time I tried the "l" version of phenylalanine, and I did have psychotic symptoms then). I think that in my case, the main reason why I responded better to the "l" version of phenylalanine than I did to the "dl" version of the supplement had to do with the difference in my symptoms at the times that I tried the different versions of the supplement.
Anyway, what I wrote in the previous paragraph pretty much sums up what I know about phenylethylamine and phenylalanine supplements. Maybe someone else with more extensive knowledge of these particular supplements will chime in and add to what I've written.
Tomatheus
Dx: schizoaffective disorder
Taking Abilify and 6 supplements
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