Posted by morgan miller on October 7, 2011, at 7:57:26
In reply to Lou's request-akyukonpfrun » morgan miller, posted by Lou Pilder on October 7, 2011, at 7:07:16
> > Huxley, glad to hear you are doing better and you found what is working for you.
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> > I just wonder if you don't take enough pause and look at your experience as something that may have been very different than many other people out there. I do believe there are many people that have bad experiences with medications like you, I truly do, so I am in no way saying your experience is a rarity. I just don't think you are taking into account all of those people doing well on medications, medications that are far less invasive than the ones you were on(i.e. SSRIs-at least for most people). I have said it here before, you will not find the thousands of people doing well on drugs like SSRIs here on the internet celebrating their success and reporting it. If you think what you see on the internet represents even close to the majority of the population of people taking psychiatric medications, especially ones like SSRIs, you are greatly mistaken.
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> > And why would you come on here and bring up such an issue with Scott when he is obviously feeling better? I find it a bit selfish. If you are doing better now, why not just leave well enough alone and get on with your life. I'm sure you are a good dude with good intentions Huxley. I just think your efforts here might be a little misguided.
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> > Peace,
> >
> > Morgan
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> Morgan,> I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers here to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> A. What evidence do you use, if any, to claim that there is a great mistake?
> B. If Huxley's efforts gave some type of warning to others that about 42,000 people died last year as the result of taking psychotropic drugs, would that not be a good thing to do? If not, why not?
> C. If Huxley's efforts gave warning that life-ruining conditions could happen to those taking psychotropic drugs, could Huxley's effort be considerd to be unselfish? If not, why not?
> D. Here is a link to the events where people taking psychotropic drugs have killed themselves and/or others and other events arising out of that one was taking psychotropic drugs. Each day, there are the new cases added. You can see the added cases in order of the most recent by clicking on the red {date} at the top, then the page will change to the most recent cases first. There might be some new cases today.
> The site will show that it is plainly visible as to the consequences of (redacted by respondent)as being misguided or not.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20110902/msgs/996161.html
>I will answer B. First, there is always risk with medication, that's just the nature of the beast until the future when we can come up with much better treatments. It happens with all types of medicaiton, not just psychiatric meds. Second, we do not know if deaths from psychiatric meds occurred due to misuse. Meaning, it is very possible patients were given doses that were higher than they should have been given. Third, we are not taking into account the health and age of these people that may have died as a result of something triggered by the use of psychiatric medications.
Huxley is motivated by his bad experience. He is not taking into account all of the other good experiences out there. He is simply going by what he reads. Thousands of people are doing well and going on with their lives, they have no interest in reporting this on the internet. This is where the mistake is being made. I guess that answers A. for ya Lou.
C...Hardly any good deed is out of pure unselfishness. We do something out of some need for reward of feeling good about what we did in return. Huxley is not only motivated by this(I'm skeptical as to whether much of his motivations comes from wanting to help others and feeling good as a result), but he is motivated by his own anger and bitterness, this is where the misguided aspect comes into play. Well, there ya go Hux, it has turned into a lynch mob, a one man lynch mob so far.
> YOu wrote,[...you are greatly xxx... a bit zzz...your efforts here might be a little yyy...]
Actually, that's not even close to what I wrote.
Morgan
poster:morgan miller
thread:998935
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