Posted by Lamdage on July 23, 2011, at 1:27:37
In reply to Re: Severe life altering Vertigo please HELP » emmanuel98, posted by Phillipa on July 22, 2011, at 19:44:22
-----Emmanuel: "One other thing. She should be checked out to make sure that this is true vertigo (sense of spinning, not feeling like she's going -----tofaint) and not light-headedness due to low BP. A BP of 90/60 is pretty low and might cause one to feel dizzy and light-headed. Increasing salt -----and fluid intake will raise BP."
That is actually the first thing that came to my mind about her issue. Even if its not the sole cause of her problem i think raising it to like 70/110 might make her feel better. That is my blood pressure actually and even though its not nice to say about a friend-> Shes not as "sporty" as i am.
You know what im going to bring her a 48 oz water bottle with salt water and ask her to drink it spread out during the day. Think she will do it for me. If it helps shell feel it pretty much immediately right?----Emmanuel: "I had severe vertigo several years ago due to an inner ear problem. The only medications available for vertigo are those prescribed ------for motion sickness. I can't recall their names and they may be sold OTC. I don't recall. I do remember they did nothing for the vertigo."
----"The best way to counter vertigo is to exercise a lot so that the signals from the body to the brain become stronger and the brain begins to ---------discount the false information from the inner ear.
----When you're so dizzy you feel like you'll fall if you walk, this seems hard advice to follow. But I did follow it and used walking and yoga and other ----exercises that require the muscles to balance the body. Gradually, over a few months, the vertigo went away.That will actually be a hard thing to make her do;) I have thought about getting her a wii-fit for her birthday;) If she did this she will definitely have to start doing that at home. Right now her mother is with her because she just came from hospital recently so it might be a good time to start when someone is with her.
----Emmanuel: 'I will also add that neurologists are useless here. ENTs are the docs who understand vertigo. Presumably the clozapine is affecting ------the nerves from the inner ear."
I also think so honestly (sry Lou). The only thing of her condition that is even just a tiny bit close to ataxia would be "Vestibular Ataxia", from what ive read on Wiki. And there the "Nausea" and "Vomiting" is completely missing, she doesnt have that AT ALL. Also everything else ive read about ataxia and the movement problems sounds very bogus when thinking about her.
Ok so ear nose and throat doc.. that sounds like its worth a try. I, too am not sure it needs to be a psychiatrist at this issue plus they are really hard to get an appointment with in this country, thats a big minus. A med change of her psych meds is not possible anyway.
----Phillipa: "I once also had vertigo crawled on hands and knees to bathroom. Shining a light in my eyes at the ER showed the doc was definitely -------vertigo.No nausea also for me. Gave me antivert and a shot of 2mg of ativan and said to rest. And it went away. Who said that the crystals in ears ----can get out of wack also and cause it. I know a person I mail with. Clozapine also effects the white blood cells and frequent testing is necessary. ----But have seen it work miracles when no other med would? Phillipa"The german equivalent of Ativan is actually exactly what her Pdoc prescribed for her. It helps she says.. but not so much that she is daring to walk outside on her own.
Yes clozapine indeed is a miracle drug for her. Its like nardil for us depressed people, only that while its possible to (kind of) live with mediocre depression, its absolutely impossible to live with a psychosis of this severity. A change from clozapine to something else is out of the question.I think the ENT doc might be a first person to go to.. at the very least he can say more about the diagnosis or rule out things.
At some point i think it wouldnt be wrong to just try some drugs and see if they help.Phillipa: what are the drugs that might help her? Antivert seems to be one of them. If you know them well could you list them with pro and cons?
Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, severe
Refractory atypical double depression, severe
Social anxiety disorder, moderate
ADD, inattentive, mild
Hints of borderline
Nardil 67.5mg
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