Posted by Lou Pilder on May 25, 2011, at 16:11:36
In reply to Scott's request of Lou - Emsam and Net etiquette » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on May 25, 2011, at 7:20:08
Scott,
One of your questions to me concerning Emsam and suicide is about what is the statistical risk to those taking the drug to think of suicide.
In order to answer that, I need to have the reader understand that ;
A. A lot of the knowledge that I have concerning this involves organic chemistry that since I am prohibited from posting more than 3 consecutive posts, I do not think that I could explain such here with that rule.
Now I think that if I was allowed to post here more than 3 consecutive posts, that lives could be saved and the chances of people getting a life-ruining condition could be headed off.
B. I am prohibited from posting what could be part of an era of time that is related to psychiatry and nerve agents. Without my knowledge concerning that being posted here, I am restrained from including what I think could explain your question annd could also save lives
C. I am prohibited from posting what I believe that has been revealed to me (the foundation of Judaism) that I need to use in my answer your question. ( there are many processes in suicide thinking that I know)
D. Since there are quite a lot of outstanding requests from me to the admin here, I am not able to post in relation to content related to the outstanding requests since I am unsure as to what Mr. Hsiung is wanting to mean by what he has written here until there are answers to my requests.
E. I think that there is an indoctrination here unless my concerns are accommodated by Mr. Hsiung in relation to the requests from me that are outstanding which (redacted by respondent) which prohibits me from posting some things that I need to answer your question.
So let it be with the above. I come to save lives here, not to ruin them.
Now the chemical in Emsam is [selegiline]. The ancient sorcerers used plants and coal-tar and such to make drugs to alter the mind of the taker so that they could be controlled or killed or addicted. One of the drugs came from a plant in Asia that has amphetamine and has been synthesized now. Then there is (meth)amphetamine which come from what is known as the (phenethylamines) which also bupropion and the MDxx drugs and selegiline. So the chemical structure goes way back and the mind-altering effects are very well known.
But when you get into how these drugs can alter the mind to that the taker is compelled to kill themselves and/or others, involves cell biology that I have a base in as an undergraduate and have kept up to date on my own since there have been great advances in understanding. One of the aspects involves the mitochondria. When a chemical enters a mitochondria, it can short-out the chemical process that allows it to be life, and then death happens. I can not post here the historical development of the people that studied how to cause death and the use of nerve agents to kill.
Now the question going on about those that take this drug... (continued)
Lou
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