Posted by Lou Pilder on March 16, 2011, at 19:25:59
In reply to More on Nardil, posted by mantus on March 16, 2011, at 17:51:34
> So Nardil, how I hate and love, well mostly hate you at the moment. This has been one wilde journey trying to find a dosage that will work for me, and to this point not so much luck. When I got to 60mg I noticed a slight improvement in the work was more manageable but I stopped sleeping. So, after several weeks I decided to go up to 75mgs where I started to feel better. However, my side effects dramatically increased, continued insomnia, orthostatic hypotension (i seem to really struggle with this one), anorgasmia, etc. But even though I wasn't sleeping, I was still able to perform better at work and in life while on 75mg, but ultimately I couldn't maintain it because of the lack of sleep and hypotension issues. So, I decided to go back down to 60mg in hopes that things would regulate a bit better, which the side effects did begin to diminish, but of course with my luck, so did my mood. At this point, I decided that I would go up so slowly back towards 75mg that maybe I could manage the side effects while finding a therapeutic dose. However, amazingly after going up 1/4 of a pill to 63.75 mg of course I stopped sleeping again. I gave it a few weeks at that dose, but I still felt like crap and had more side effects. So, again I have now just went back down to 60mg. My new great idea is to hopefully have the side effects again regulate to some degree and sleep better for as long as I can possibly handle it, and prepare myself for no sleep again when I go back up to 75mg. At that point, I would really like to continue up to 90mg after a few weeks if my body can at all handle it. Not because I think I need that much for an effective dose, but hopefully so that I can find a higher level of medication and mao inhibition so that eventually I could go back down to something higher than 60mg and start regulating away from the side effects. I do not want to start a sleep aid for as long as possible in hopes that if I battle through it I will one day be able to sleep and find an effective dose without possibly becoming dependent on another drug. I'm just at a complete loss now for what I should do, because nothing works as planned. Either the medicine isn't at a therapeutic dose or it takes a huge toll on me physically. If I could eliminate the orthostatic hypotension through the regulation of the medicine, I might be willing to eventually try a sleep aid. But I'm tired of being in a circle of meds when if I could just be on 75mg and have it regulate to some degree at least I could manage it better. Any suggestions?
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> Thanks,
> MantusMantus,
You wrote,[...Nardil..hate..at the moment...trying to find...not so much luck...stopped sleeping...side effects drammatically increased...still felt like....nothing works...tired of being on a circle of meds...any suggestions?...]
When I see someone taking Nardil, I ask myself if they really know what they are putting into their body. Now if one was explained that before they took it, I wonder if they would.
Nardil is a chemical like hydrazine.Hydrazine is an extreamly toxic substance used industrial and in dyes. Hydrazine can be made in a process involving urea and sodium hypochlorite. It was used as a jet fuel in WW2. If you want to explore that aspect, search Messerschmitt Me 163B.
NOw urea is in your urine and in animal's urine. Sodium hypochlorate is used in bleach. So hydrazine is not an expensive chemical to produce. Now would you drink a glass of urea with bleach?
Now there are deaths reported from the use of Nardil. If you wouuld like to look that up, search [Nardil, death].
Lou
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