Posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2011, at 7:29:47
In reply to Lou's request-edu73bMth, posted by Lou Pilder on January 2, 2011, at 21:16:14
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> > > > > pigglet,
> > > > > You wrote,[..I hope someone replies...I would appreciate thoughts/comments...].
> > > > > I have examined your list of drugs that you are taking. I am unsure as to some things and if you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> > > > > A. Are you aware that in the combination that you are taking, death could happen as a result of such?
> > > >
> > > > No, I was not aware of that. What combination could cause that? Should I stop taking my meds and find a new doctor then?
> > > >
> > > > > B. Are you aware that addiction could also happen?
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> > > > Is this just the Adderall? I know that can be addicting for some people but I've been on it for a number of years without a problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > C. Are you aware that there could be life-ruining conditions that could result from taking the combination?
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> > > > I didn't know that either. I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to meds and med combinations. What sort of life ruining conditions?
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> > > > > D. Are you aware that a mind-alterd state could be induced to compel you to want to kill yourself or others as a result of taking the combination?
> > > >
> > > > No, I didn't know.
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> > > > > E. Did the person prescribing the drugs to you ever warn you of the above?
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> > > > No, she never said anything of the sort. I had no idea either. I try not to research too much into my meds because I don't want to make myself think of every single side effect.
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> > > > > F. Were you in any kind of mental condition when you were first given the drugs to make an informed decision as to taking the drugs or not?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I was able to make an informed decision.
> > > >
> > > > > G. How much time did you spend, if any, reading the package inserts or researching the adverse effects that the combination of the drugs could have before you went ahead to take the drugs ?
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> > > > I didn't read the package insert actually. I usually don't. I assumed my pharmacist would tell me if anything was amiss with my meds. The only thing he said was one of them could cause drowsiness.
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> > > > > H. redacted by responent
> > > > > Lou
> > > >
> > > > pigglet,
> > > You wrote,[...No, I was not aware of that...Is it just the Adderall?...I didn't know that either... No, I didn't know...I had no idea...I assumed my pharmacist...].
> > > The stats that I have say that about 40,000 people die each year from taking psychotropic drugs by one means or another. This number is unclear to me, for it could be just the people that die in the U.S. each year from these drugs. Now if it is only the US, then by some means of interpolation, there could be 600,000 people that die each year in the world. I base this on that around 2,000,000 people die each year from smoking related deaths and there are about 420,000 people in the US that die each year from smoking related diseases and illnesses aand such. There is also the question as to how many people die each year from psychotropic drugs and their deaths are reported as being from natural causes. They die from such things as cadiac arrest, but if they were taking these drugs, could not the drugs have caused the cardiac arrests? You see, families do not always want there to be a disection of their loved one that died and the funeral is swift without having an expert determine what caused their death. So some people give a 10 to one ratio of if the drugs caused the death. That could mean that then 400,000 people die each year from these drugs, if the figure of 40,000 is only for the U.S.. Some people give 100 to one as the ratio. That could mean then that 4,000,000 people die each year from psychotropic related events. So in the future, depending on how you interpret the stats, millions of people could die from these drugs.
> > > Now the stats do say that the combining of psychhotropic drugs could cause in one way death by what is known as serotonin syndrome. The combination in question could fall into that catagory. You could use http:///www.drugs.com and use the drug interaction tab to see what they say. But there are other ways one could die , and in some cases suddenly, from taking psychotropic drugs.
> > > Now it is my deep conviction that if one was to know as about what these drugs are, and where they came from and for what purpose, and knew of the historical development of them, and what they do to the nevous system and other systems and organs, that one could make a more informed decision as to taking the drugs or not.
> > > I have a very broad background concerning these drugs and could be a partner to help you and could possibly save your life or possibly have you escape a life-ruining comdtion, or suicide, that these drugs have the potential to induce.
> > > Your immediate question as to what you could do in relation to either stopping the drugs or not is not what my intentions are. My presence here is to educate which could give support for you to make your own determination. But look at the end of the road for people that take mind-altering drugs. Can it be known what is at that end? If so, is that where you want to be?
> > > Lou
> >
> > Friends,
> > If you are considering being a discussant in this thread or parallel threads, I am requesting that you read the following article. If you could, I think that the information contained in the article could help in understanding some aspects of the discussion.
> > Lou
> > To see this article,
> > A. pull up Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [Psychotropic Drugs, Cardiac Arrhythmia and Sudden Death]
> > There could be many titles of this nature that could come up. In my search it is the second one using Google.
> > You will see that it is a PDF by Harry J. Witchel, PHD on 2003 cited by 102 related articles.
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> Friends,
> If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, I am requesting that you view tthe following video. If you could, I think that lives could be saved and life-ruining conditions could be avoided.
> Lou
> To see this video,
> A. pull up Google
> B. Type in;
> [World's most dangerous drug (Meth)]
> This is a National Geogrphic production and is 3 min on June 25, 2008 if there is more than one that comes up in your search.Friends,
The innitiator of this thread posts,[...I hope someone replies..I would appreciate thoughts/comments..].
I am here to offer education to those that ask concerning the aspects of psychotropic drugs. My knowledge of the subject comes from years of study of research and other sources. The most knowledge that I have comes from what my mind has been opened up to. This mind-opening experiance comes from a Jewish perspective that has been granted to me by (redacted by respondent). If I could post here what could have the potential to save your life or the potential to prevent a life-ruining condition or addiction, (redacted by respondent) to do here?
Now the poster in this thread has been prescribed a colletion of drugs. And does that a doctor prescribed them annul the facts of what the drugs could do to someone taken in combination? The research is full of facts that the drugs could be addictive and have the potential for death when combined. As to if a doctor can do that or not, there are cases that answer that question.
There are numerous agencies that give warnings that psychotropic drugs can cause death and more so when combined. When a psychiatrist prescribes as such , the standard used is not if the doctor knows, but the standard is {should the doctor have known}. When a psychitrist prescribes drugs in disregard of the life and safety of the patient, many jurisdictions consider it to be a crime as criminal negligence.
Here is an article that covers some of the cases concerning criminal negligence.
Lou
To see this article,
A. pull up Google
B. Type in;
[When Prescribing Psychotropic Drugs Becomes Criminal Negligence]
There could be many but the one I have read is a PDF, but I use the quick view, and from cchrint
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:975462
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