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Lou's request--phalzehynhalowjee? » Solstice

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 16, 2010, at 20:58:22

In reply to Re: Solice » rjlockhart04-08, posted by Solstice on December 16, 2010, at 18:12:48

> Thanks for providing the broader picture. I understand what you're talking about - she is no doubt very sincerely doing what she believes is best for you. I don't know if she is of the thinking that medicine in general is 'bad' and that one should only go to God instead - - but maybe someone can help her understand that God is the one who gave us (mankind) the intelligence to develop the medical treatments we have today. The Bible is pretty emphatic about our being responsible for using and developing what God has gifted us with. It seems to me that this would include the gifted minds in the medical field. I wonder if she would have refused polio vaccinations - and put her or her children at risk for polio back in the day? It's really no different with what you need. If you had developed juvenile diabetes as a 9 yr old, would she have refused you insulin? If she had, you would have died. The brain is an organ no different than the pancreas. Optimal functioning of the pancreas is dependent on a lot of other processes working like they should. Same with the brain. If your brain's functioning is impaired because it doesn't have the proper balance of 'insulin' - then you deserve to get medical care that will treat it and bring it as close to optimal functioning as possible. I have juvenile diabetes. Thank God for Dr. Frederik Banting who, thru medical research, discovered insulin as a treatment for diabetes in 1922. If I'd developed juvenile diabetes in 1920, I would have died within a couple of months. My pancreas no longer makes insulin, but I can inject it several times a day. The pancreas is a precision machine that continually monitors your food intake and always produces exactly the amount of insulin you need to keep your blood sugar level between about 80 - 100. My pancreas doesn't work any more, so I have to figure it out with my brain. I've got a pretty good brain, but it is not a very good pancreas :-) Sometimes my blood sugar goes very low - it was 35 yesterday, and sometimes it goes pretty high - it can get to 400 easy. So my brain has had to take over for my pancreas in estimating how much insulin I need. I don't think it's any different in treating depression, bipolar, or any other mental health impairment. I am not able to keep my blood sugar in the optimal 80-100 range. It's just not possible. But I can usually keep it between 60 -200. I am immensely fortunate in that I have zero complications - so I am healthy, active, and not at all limited by my diabetes, except that I have to stay on top of it - check blood sugar and take insulin several times a day - and get tests that monitor it - and go to the doctor a lot, etc. Same with what you need. I must take insulin, and you must take whatever medications will treat your brain's impairment. Maybe your mom needs someone to help her get another perspective of it? Maybe the folks you talk to this week can help with that. I'll keep my fingers crossed..
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> Take care
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> Solstice
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> > Well, see I don't want to say that my mother is blocking my health, and I don't want to make any impressions that im being neglected because my mother does love me but she doesnt really seem to see psychiatry as an awnser she sees God, and prayer as an awnser and she prays for me alot and I can't say that she isnt giving me treatment because I am seeing a doctor but this doctor is .... not working with me, she just thinks that my addiction is a symtom of ... not being able to treat my depression. She sees my depression as a symptom of not having stimulants, and won't treat it.
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> > I'm going to JPS tommorow and telling them I need to see a doctor. My mother ... see I hate to state something that's not all the way true, she sees me as just trying to get a job and doesnt really need medication. She doesnt really believe that medication solves problems, she sees God as an awnser. So she's not neglecting me, she choosing to find other ways than psychiatry to solve my problem, I don't want to get the impression on her that she'xs neglecting me, she's not she cares for me very much but doesnt see medication as the awnser.
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> > Wish me luck tommorow because I will be talking with a social worker, and a mental hospital. Thanks!!
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> > Matt
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> Solstic,
You wrote,[...It's really no different from what you need...the brain is an organ no different from the pancreas...Same with what you need..I must take insulin, and you must take whatever medication will treat you brain's impairment...].
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers to thhe following, then I could have the opportuity to respond accordingly. In your analogy with diabetes;
A. If a person drinks vodka and feels good for it, could that mean that the person's brain is dificient in vodka?
B. If a person is depressed, does that mean that the person's brain could be deficient in Prozac?
C. If the perosn is having trouble getting good grades, does that mean that the person's brain could be deficient in amphetamine?
D. if a person is depressed, could that mean that the person's brain is deficient in Paxil?
E. If a person is in pain, does hat mean that the person's brain or nervous system is deficient in Morphine?
F. If the analogy in question here doesn't hold, and all drugs are tried, and in combinations, and the person dies or gets a life-ruining condition, in your opinion could some people consider the the analolgy be false?
G. other questions if the above are answerd here.
Lou

 

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