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Re: Hey Morgan....

Posted by morgan miller on November 19, 2010, at 17:36:17

In reply to Re: Hey Morgan.... morgan miller, posted by floatingbridge on November 19, 2010, at 16:39:21

Thanks for the response and interest FB, I appreciate it : )

>He works out like a maniac--I've seen him at Gold's Gym. I
think that's his glue. I used to run and
do Iyngaer (sp) yoga. Good glue, but I
have a back injury. I could walk more....

Man, working out was my glue for years. I still needed a med to be working at the same time though. The condition of my body, musculoskeletal and physiological, keeps me from getting that benefit at the gym that I experienced just a few years ago. The fact that my brain is not quite operating in a way currently that allows me to feel the full effects for pleasure is another reason why I would not benefit from workouts as much as I should right now. I had the same problem ten years ago before I got on Zoloft. The main reason for getting on Zoloft was that I did not feel things the way I should, not necessarily that I was experiencing depression. I think this was due to a long mixed episode and some antidepressant trials. It wast he first time in my life I had experienced this inability to feel things. I was lively and full of emotion at the time, so it had nothing to do with anhedonia or major depression.

Do you think you could do a recombint stationery bike or eliptical machine? I'm trying to think of other things you could do than walking, things that would allow you to get a better more intense sweat inducing workout. I bet you would feel pretty good if you could.

>Yet you're looking at ssri's? Snri's? How careful do you need to be about cycling? What looks interesting?

I never had a problem with cycling on SSRIs. I'm one of the few people with bipolar that has done very well taking just an antidepressant. The first time I had a mixed episode(I did not know that is what it was at the time) I took Prozac and it was a miracle in a pill. About three weeks into Prozac, I woke up, took the little pill, and within an hour i felt better than I had in a long long time, I was a brand new person. All anxiety, obsessive thoughts, sleep issues, depression, and inability to focus was obliterated. I loved Prozac the first time I took it. I will always miss my good days on Prozac and Zoloft. I felt good, slept good, and was able to fully enjoy life. I was also younger and did not have all the physical issues, so that does play a major role.

What looks interesting? Hmm..Zoloft plus Nortriptyline, an MAOI(I hate the 2 and 3 time a day dosing), a TCA by itself-Amitriptyline or Nortriptyline or other, maybe Luvox-hated it over ten years ago, but things may have changed, and low dose Lexapro-this may be my first try.

>You know, come to think of it, he does very well on Wellbutrin. Not too
stimulating for him, but boosts him out of depressive brooding (runs in our family). Have you tried it?

I did try Wellbutrin, it increased my anxiety and gave me the shakes. I only gave it a 3 week trial, which is rare since I usually stick something out for at least 4 weeks even with side effects. My doctor just didn't think it was a good idea to continue WB with some of the side effects I was experiencing.

>You're a guitarist?

I played bass for 5 years. I am a huge lover of music. I can't play my bass anymore due to progressive carpal tunnel syndrome. I just don't think my hands and wrists were made for the bass. I loved playing and miss it so much, but I don't see how I will ever play again. I would just love to get back to turning up some of my favorite music in my car and really feeling it. It's good for the brain to listen to loud pleasurable music, just not for too long because of hearing loss of course.

>Still, even I liked to go out and listen to music, stay
out late, drive to the city, make plans... It's really a loss right now.

Ya know, I can't deal with that loss. I want to be going out and being social into my 70s.

>I think of you as quite a positive person.

Thank you. I really am innately positive. At work, my customers and most of my co-workers would never guess that I'm going through this right now. Even the most positive people can start to have a negative outlook if they are beat down hard enough for long enough.

>Wow. That's so simple. I like it.

I like to keep it simple. I have a very high tolerance for discomfort so I'm able to stay away from adding on too much until I find the few meds at the right doses that will work for me. I also fear taking too many things, possible making it harder for me later to respond to the more simple solution. I'm also not a believer in 100 percent remission through medications. I think anyone who believes they are going to get that after years of suffering and medication trials is kidding themselves. I do believe it is possible to get 70 and maybe even 80 percent remission. And honestly, should that be enough? I mean, if you get that much better, you should be able to enrich your life in ways that help you achieve the other 20 or 30 percent, at least some of the time.

FB, thanks again, you are very thoughtful and kind. I really hope Cymbalta works out for you. So far it sounds like it has potential.





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