Posted by SLS on August 12, 2010, at 5:17:23
In reply to Re: Ketamine IV yields swift AD Effect To Bipolar Pts, posted by Huxley on August 11, 2010, at 18:44:46
> > Hi Huxley.
> > > lol Ketamine.
> > > Wow just wow. Cocaine and Heroin will also help you out with that pesky depression...> > Depression is quite a bit more painful and debilitating than it is "pesky" for many of its sufferers. For people who do not respond to standard treatments, the use of a drug representing a new paradigm represents hope. I'm glad ketamine is being investigated. Perhaps ketamine itself will be a disappointment. However, those properties that produce an antidepressant effect might be instructive in inspiring new paths to treating depression.
> I think you have failed to detect my sarcasm.....
Perhaps you failed to execute sarcasm in a way that would be obvious.
> I am well aware of how painful and debilitating depression can be so don't bother taking that angle.
I didn't know that I had an "angle". Perhaps you could detail what that angle is and what I might be attempting to prove to you.
> I question psychiatry's methods, because they are directly effecting millions of peoples lives and they don't seem to answer to anybody when they get it wrong. They deserve to be questioned.
That is exactly what the authors of ketamine studies are doing. They are questioning the status quo.
> You seem to find this confronting and seem to be negative of anyone who doesn't accept the general wisdom of psychiatry.I don't know how I effect negativism, but if you are accusing me of being more trusting than distrusting of the motivations of psychiatric medicine, I would agree with that statement.
> If you are at all familiar with what ketamine can do... the wrong dose, to high or to low then you would understand why I am skeptical about it.
You might want to review more closely the post that I submitted here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20100731/msgs/958161.html
> I have seen Ketamine leave people with permanent drug induced psychosis that resembles schizophrenia.
Would you care to provide more evidence of the irreversibility of a psychotomimetic reaction? Amantadine and memantine can produce psychosis infrequently, but I am not aware of these NMDA antagonists doing so irreversibly.
> SLS you seem to offer a lot of advice to people here on what drugs to take.
> Tell me this though, do you understand the human mind?Perhaps you could enlighten me as to where I am deficient in this.
> Do you understand what effects the drugs that you are recomending have on peoples minds?
Not as much as the understandings that modern biological psychiatry offers.
Any perspectives that you are willing to offer will be appreciated.
- ScottThe measure of achievement lies not in how high the mountain,
but in how hard the climb.The measure of success lies only in how high one feels he must
climb to get there.
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