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Re: im also rejecting meds...

Posted by bulldog2 on June 17, 2010, at 12:46:11

In reply to Re: im also rejecting meds..., posted by Huxley on June 16, 2010, at 4:37:45

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> What Christ empowered says is true and people need to recognise that THERE IS NO CHEMICAL IMBALANCE.
> If it was a biological illness then there would be biological evidence.
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> If you were to argue that there is a biologial illness that we just are not advanced enough in our science to
> detect it well what makes you think we are advanced enough to treat it?
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> How can you treat a chemical imbalance that you have not detected using drugs that you do not understand what they do?
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> To me this seems the opposite of balance. When you are putting these drugs in your system, this is when you are creating
> an imbalance which leads to you being chronically ill.
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> "For instance, Prozac and other SSRI antidepressants block
> the reuptake of serotonin . In order to cope with this hindrance of normal function, the
> brain tones down its whole serotonergic system . Neurons both release less serotonin and
> down-regulate (or decrease) their number of serotonin receptors . The density of serotonin
> receptors in the brain may decrease by 50% or more . As part of this adaptation
> process, Hyman noted, there are also changes in intracellular signaling pathways and
> gene expression . After a few weeks, Hyman concluded, the patient's brain is functioning
> in a manner that is "qualitatively as well as quantitatively different from the normal
> state"
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> "The brain responds to neuroleptics-which block 70% to 90% of all D, dopamine
> receptors in the brain-as though they are a pathological insult . To compensate,
> dopaminergic brain cells increase the density of their D, receptors by 30% or more"
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> Does that sound like a healthy balance? Is there any suprise that once you stop taking a neuroleptic or an AD that when this gross
> imbalance of receptors sends you a little nuts?
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> Christ empowered if you dont mind me asking, how did you get off your meds? From what it sounds like you were on a or some APs?
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> I have tossed the pill bottles in the bin. Then gone scrambling back to the bin a couple of days later. I am having an extremly hard time with zyprexa. Only been on it for a couple of years. Would you mid sharing your story of how you got off them?
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My thread was started on the premis that for some people meds are the only method that have worked. I have not stated that meds are the only path for all people. Again a thread based on those for whom meds have been the path that has led to remission.

Now something that has worked for ChristEmpowered or other people that is non med does not mean that meds are the incorrect path for those above. It simply means there is more than one way to solve a problem.

I think there is a lot of evidence that there is a biological basis for depression and other mental illness. It is the science of genetics. Like any part of the human anatomy the brain can be diseased and can be encoded via genetics and passed along. I saw it in my own family. People who have raised dogs for instance have pups born with behavioral problems. Forget the term chemical imbalance that is just something that someone coined. People pass along size, eye color, diabetes and all kinds of biological problems. Well the brain is an organ and how can one deny that it is not subject to disease.

By the way there are tcas, maois and other ads. Just because ssris are flawed doesn't mean all ads are flawed. Also all ads do not lead to mania and a than a diagnosis are bi polar.

What Christ empowered says is true and people need to recognise that THERE IS NO CHEMICAL IMBALANCE

Why do I have to recognize this? Because sometone said it?

 

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