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Re: Lou's request-leeroybrwn » Lou Pilder

Posted by chujoe on May 7, 2010, at 7:50:14

In reply to Lou's request-leeroybrwn » chujoe, posted by Lou Pilder on May 6, 2010, at 21:49:12

> > Lou, you'll have to do more than post sensationalistic videos to convince me that the careful, supervised use of psych drugs is the evil you say it is. There's a weird subtext to that vid, too: pleasure is bad for you, pleasure is bad. You didn't answer my other questions by the way.
>
> chugo,
> You wrote,[...convince me..the evil you (redacted by respondent)...a (redacted by respondent) subtext to that vid...You didn't...]
> I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> A.What criteria , if any, do you use to write that you think that I am trying to convince anyone here?
> B. What do you mean by evivl?
> C. what are the criteria that you use, if any, to say that the vid has a subtext that pleasure is bad?
> D. What questions did I not answer that you would like answers to?
> E. other questions if the above are answerd
> Lou

Lou, Bad, Bad Leroy Brown? Honestly, Lou, I'm not sure our world views have enough in common for us to have a productive conversation, but let me begin by saying I think you provide a useful voice on this forum -- a voice that is more than skeptical about the use of psychiatric drugs. Having said that, I think you'd be even more effective if you were less absolutist in the expression of your views and were able to consider the validity of ideas presented by those who disagree with you. I also fear that some of the links you post might lead someone who really needs to take medication to not take it, with terrible consequences.

But, as for your questions: 1. You didn't answer when I asked you whether you had ever taken psych drugs and were speaking from experience, or from a more intellectual orientation. You're free of course to decline to answer this. 2. The video you linked to was produced for a popular entertainment television channel and as such was designed to attract viewers by creating a combination of fear and fascination -- as well as a comfortable sense of moral superiority among those who can say, "Well, I'd never take that drug!" From the faux-scientific graphics to the intonations of the narrator, this program exudes sensationalism. 3. By "evil," I just mean the usual dictionary definition, something like "really bad." 4. By what criteria do I believe you are trying to convince anyone here? You've said yourself that you want to "help" and "save" people -- how could you do this without "convincing" them. There is also the fact that you only post on one topic, rather than joining in several conversations from several points of view. Your repetitive and highly similar posts -- regardless of the context in which they appear -- lead me to believe you are trying to convince people. Which is fine: you are perfectly within your rights and within the guidelines of the forum, as far as I can tell as a newcomer here.


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