Posted by willyeee on December 4, 2009, at 18:56:02
In reply to Re: THE GOOD DRUG GUIDE?-GHB, posted by Brain Damage on December 4, 2009, at 17:17:46
> > To a degree yess,but not much more then standerd medication,even less then some
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> .I think i remeber you,and we spoke before,but far as my understanding gbl is not very toxic unless its low grade,ghb as well.
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> > Im sure your aware of xyrem.
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> Yes we have spoken about this before, but I still feel debate is helpful..........
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> I am aware of xyrem, I'm would think pure GHB is fairly safe as long as its not mixed with alcohol or benzo's
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> I'm also quite certain that GBL is NOT safe, even when pure.
> GBL melts plastic, or at least some plastics.
> Its a powerful solvent, although a fairly non toxic one.
> If it melts plastic, what's it doing to your insides?
> Also can course seizures
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> If your GHB has GBL or impurities in it your in trouble!
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>GBL carries metals in it since its not for human comsumption,so its hard to get it in "quality" grade so gbl in that aspect is toxic.
As far as it leting plastics,your stmoach inside your body as we speak can do the same think,gross,but ever burp up some,and it burns ur mouth,thats why you take anti acids because your stomach acids ph is off.However again your stomach acid could do the same thing to plastics.
GHB also increases glutamate so it is highly CONTRADICTED in people with siezures as it can invoke one.
There are many pros and cons,the pros for me are that it acts on gaba b,which helps me become social,it potenties my anti depressant the next day as it increases serontonin turn over,and the night i take it along with depression,it also kills anxiety dead with just the smallest addition of a benzo.
Its contradicted with a benzo,but people need to understand what that means,ghb can be a strong cns depressant,so any two cns depressants are obviosly contradicted.
But using ghb at moderate doses,along with a benzo at moderate doses will not from my personal experance do anything negative,and actualy have a synergy,this is type of use is confirmed in a article from one henri laborits associates.
Thing to remember if i had to describe it would be,
First time users need to read accurate published facts on the drug,not pro and con sites with agendas.
First time and all users need to respect the drug,understand its potency.
I dont see any reason it should be used outside a home setting.
Using a benzo with it can stop any form of minor seizures or sjakes with it,and also compliment its pro social,pro deression effects.
Like any of the meds,benzos,sleep meds i.e ambien,ssris with w/d etc,ghb can be addicting.
GHB metabolizes into h20,there fore its almost impossable to detect at a hospital.
If studied and respected,again it can be part of a aresnal to a severly depressed person,however again knowledge of it from non pro or con sites is a must!
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