Posted by bulldog2 on June 17, 2009, at 19:08:22
In reply to Re: I'm still alive, and still on Nardil:) » bulldog2, posted by SLS on June 17, 2009, at 5:58:53
> Hi Bulldog.
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> This is not meant to be an attack, but I am going to bust your chops a little.
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> > We are a product of of chemistry.
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> At the exact same time, our chemisty is a product of the phenomenon we call the mind.
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> "The brain determines the mind as the mind sculpts the brain" There is something more gestault about looking at it this way.
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> > Personally I feel this argument about being ourselves is a non issue.
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> It can be an issue for some people in that it is only when their outside matches their inside that they feel true to themselves and self actualized. This allows them capable of having a wealth of peak experiences that would not otherwise be possible. I like the spontaneity that "being myself" brings me.
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> > Am I being the person I would be without the ad the answer is no.
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> Is this a contradiction to your non-issue?
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> :-)
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> Bulldog, you may never have known any other way to be except to "be yourself". This is a good thing, but might make it difficult to understand where others are coming from. I spent too many years trying to make my inside match what I thought was inside others by observing their outside - all this for the sake of approval and to gain a sense of normalcy. Bad move. It really screwed me up. It took me plenty of years to synchronize my inside and outside again.
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> - Scottno offense.
Ultimately this could become a very interesting philosophical debate. I guess I have endured so much misery I just don't really care all that much about am I being me (whoever that may be!). I am more concerned about:
1. I wish to feel happy most of the time.
2. I engage life with vigor and have goals and aspirations.
3. I am a spiritual being.Now when I am depressed I am an unhappy, unmotivated person. If a chemical can give me 1,2 and 3 I guess I wouldn't question wether that is me or someone else that I was not ordained to be. On the other hand if a chemical can give me 1,2 and 3 as these are my goals than perhaps I am being me.
Well if I'm in pain and percocet makes me feel better should I question wether that is me? Well I just want to get rid of the pain.
Scott I'm sure you can tear the above into shreads! lol...I'm a big believer in better living thru chemistry...
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