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Re: giving up

Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on June 16, 2009, at 19:25:25

In reply to giving up, posted by ihatedrugs on June 15, 2009, at 20:27:03

> Hi guys,
>
> I'm just writing to let yu knwo that i think there is nothin outhere for me in terms of treatment. I have tried everything short of ect and no maois. but this journey has taken too long and it has taken a toll on who i am as a human being. My husband an kids although love me very much they just dont understand and I am beginning to fight this battle with someone else at my side.Sort of when you were little and your mom was your voice. I am supposed to go to all these doctors and tried all this stuff and then explain why it didn't work. My brainis too tired. I just want to sleep forever. But not even that I can accomplish. I took 6 1 mg clonazepan 2 tylenol pm and woke up 2 hours later. so i later took that last 5 clonazepan and 2 ambiem and stillwoke up 2 hours later. So now I took 3 ambien and lets if I can sleep through the night. I called my p doctor but cannotsee me until Wedneday. In the meantime I am out of clonazepan and don't even think the doctor is going to be able to do much. And to add insult to injury I have to go to Orlando on vacation for the kids. HOw am I even begin smile.
>
> Meds I'm taking
> Pristiq 50
> Clonazepan 1-2 mg
> ambien as needed
> Deplin
>
> The doctor is considering the emsam patch. What do you guys think.


Hello ihatedrugs,
Dammit sounds like your in a rough spot. I feel for you, this must be hard.
How long until you take a trip to Orlando? Maybe you'll be able to get somewhat back on track for the trip.
I second Phillipa, Shasling, and Floatingbridge... I would definitely get your clonazepam today, isn't there a walk in clinic, or could your pharmacy give you a day or 2 worth of Clono?
Are you suffering from anxiety really bad? if so I would try Nardil and modafinil if your so tired.. problem is it takes weeks before Nardil starts working......> This is only my opinion and im not saying this is safe or a good idea for you but here goes: Prestiq half life is pretty short so you should be able to start the Nardil 2 days after cold turkey Prestiq. Since Nardil hits Serotonin aswell you shouldnt feel much of any withdrawl syptoms... if you tolerate Nardil side effects well then get to 45mg/day ASAP like by 2nd day or 3rd. at 45mg you shouldnt feel any prestiq withdrawl as there will be sufficient serotonin for the Nardil to move on where the Prestiq left off. I KNOW THIS SOUNDS A LIL CRAZY AND FAST AND DANGEROUS, most people here will probably totally disagree with my speed of changing AD's.. Its ONLY from my own biological traits that I can switch meds extreamly fast to avoid withdrawl [(sounds like Im boasting...but im not I just started doing it out of desperation and im so med resistant that I can do it, not that it helps much since im treatment resistant anyway:()] and so I dont loose the already "present" AD effect from the last drug. (no real dooown then uup), just a smouth change over and hoping to feel better from the new drug.

Pozac I would never say such a thing because its long half life.. just saying so you dont think id be 'a go' to switch like that for any med. no way. but you may have an option here.

I switched from 300mg Effexor XR to 40mg Parnate overnight out of desperation.. man was I desperate, I was Paranois and thinking of just leaving society forever to a little discusting cabin I know of....(im from canada this cabin is far far from anyone) Anyway

PARNATE. I would try this first before Nardil because it is extreamly Notorious for making you feel great at the beginning of treatment for the first few days or first week. and each dose increase(10mg usually), the same thing happens, you feel wonderful for a couple+ days. So if your like me and can up the dose to 30mg quickly because of lack of side effects you may possibly get a full week or 2 of remission. Now when I started Parnate I took modafinil aswell and I was in complete remission and felt great at the beginning. I took 100mg BID for the first month on Parnate. And what a great month I had. I was up to 60 mg within 2 weeks of starting. Then I stopped the modafinil and waited for the REAL Parnate AD effect to kick in, it took not long, a day or so. I felt full of emotion, energy, feelings, totally the opposite from depression but it wasnt doing too good on anxiety so I raised to 70, then 80, now 100. The AD effect never left for a second but the anxiolytic effect was very transient. I went back on modafinil for 2 weeks (thats all the supply I had and I had complete Anxiety relief and SOOO much energy and very little social phobia. Then I ran out of modafinil and here I sit at 100mg/day with very minor anxiolytic effects but antidepression effect is powerfull and always there, the thing is tho, I was never depressed. SO Im waiting for my Pdoc to augment it with something to creat a magic for anxiety (it would be magic for me if I could go to town and shop in a store and see someone I know!! even have a conversation)
Right now Im taking 4mg-clonazepam/day with the 100mg Parnate and I added the clonazepam 2 weeks ago and it helps 30%, So I feel OK at home doing stuff(now I use more of the house , I talk to my parents [ya im back at home] and I have my ambitions back and am dying to get Parnate augmented. For me clonazepam is not the answer to augment my Parnate(because my dose would have to be too high [addiction risk] like 5,6 or 7mg/day. It may be a great combo for you if smaller clonazepam doses work for you (you'll have to try the combo to see I guess. I would Try the modafinil in conjunction with Parnate at first so you get all the energy you need and a smile on your face(start at 50mg twice daily before moving to 100mg twice daily incase 50x2mg modafinil is enough for you), rather then waiting 2-8 weeks for the real AD effect to kick in. Im just saying that because your so so tired. I took 100mgmodafinil at 8am and 100mg at 1200pm. It was the best for energy hands down for me. it should be ok to use for a moderately long term, unlike other stimulants (ritalin, dextro). BUY a home kit Blood Pressure Cuff! Manditory I say for anyone starting an MAOI. I use mine all the time still.
ok Ill stop talking now.
I hope you got/get some klonopin for tonight or at least a substitute benzo.
I hope your Pdoc is open to trying new methods of attack.
If not get rid of him.
I used to put myself on my own drugs from lying at walk in clinics(saying i need a refill of something ive never had etc)... thats too tiring now so Ill just be patient and honest with my New Pdoc, he seems good, but slow .. ahhh who knows if I can wait, I hate being on so much clonazepam with limited benefit.
Let us know how your doing, and if you have made any progress at all..
sorry for the long post , I never do this but its this clonazepam and Parnate working together for me right now, I feel like actually writing a post rather then debating, and then not doing it.. this will be short lived I bet.
Hope I helped maybe a little....
Sorry if you think my ideas are way to far fetched.
talk to you soon.


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