Posted by bleauberry on March 12, 2009, at 15:33:24
In reply to Re: Another Lymes Article Interesting slant. » bleauberry, posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2009, at 12:36:28
> Wow I wonder why the put a pic line in me and gave me Rocephin IV and then the biaxin xl three months at a time then off and wait then antibiotics again. Why did I feel better on the antibiotics with anxiety history? I don't get it? Love Phillipa
I have no idea what the rationale was. Sounds good, just not long enough. There are better meds and combos, though everyone responds differently depending on which pathogens they have.
Why feel better on ABs? Good question. I talked with my LLMD on the phone last night. Told him I felt tons better almost right away. Asked him how that could happen because it was not long enough or high enough of a dose to do much pathogen killing. He explained to me in scientific detail way over my head how it is his belief that many of the symptoms of Lyme and other infections is not just from the pathogen toxins themselves, but rather from the immune system's reaction to the pathogens. The anxiety, depression, pain, whatever, is our own immune system freaking out.
Well, these different ABs have different effects on some of the immune markers we have. I don't remember the name, but he Tetracycline increases one of those markers and that is probably what I felt. He said later in treatment if a patient has not yet had a breakthrough where they feel wonderful, then he pulls out another trick, which is a second AB (forgot which one) that lowers that same immune marker. He starts it at a very low dose, patient Herxes a little bit, increases the dose a little more, a little more Herx, and then all of a sudden the patient feels great. LLMD called it his miracle trick. And he explained it is more based on manipulating the immune system than it is killing pathogens, though of course mass destruction of pathogens is happening the whole time.
Anyway, somewhere in that complicated web could explain why you felt better. The meds somehow controlled your immune or hormones that were freaking out, manifesting as a feeling of anxiety.
??? Complicated stuff, and surely Greek to members of CDC.All I know is the very next day after my first dose of Tetracycline I had the most wonderful sleep without the early morning waking, without the adrenaline rush thing, and the whole day was peaceful and calm with zero anxiety.
Two days later I was joking, socializing, brain fog seemed gone, pains much diminished. It was almost a miracle. But then, just as was predicted by the LLMD, the Herx reaction set it. So now feeling that.
But, it was amazing. And it is a glimpse of the future. And it is a glimpse of the unexplored science of how pathogen infections can be and are involved in psychiatry. Probably a lot more than we are aware of, in my opinion.
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