Posted by Onestone on February 7, 2009, at 13:20:15
In reply to Re: Venlafaxine. :-((((, posted by Neal on February 7, 2009, at 11:07:10
Hi, Neal!
> (talking about quitting meds)
> "Anything almost, is better than crippling depression so don't give up without another plan."
> "Sorry, have to disagree! Feeling nothing is worse than feeling misery. After all, nothing is what you feel when you're dead (I hope!). Just because things are very bad is no reason why they can't get far, far worse."
> Onestone,
> ????
> Mind running that by me again. So a suicidal person should quit meds? Is that what your advising?No. I merely meant, that having experienced several decades of depression, some of it really grotty, and several weeks or months of feeling nothing (as a result of SSRIs and friends), feeling nothing is worse than feeling really grotty. Just for me, I suppose. Maybe it's different for other people.
Feeling well is not merely the absence of feeling grotty.
As to whether a suicidal person should quit meds? Possibly, maybe the medicine is making them suicidal, or has clouded their judgement as to whether that's what they really want. Maybe they're giving them the only thing they have, at whatever cost.
Maybe untreatable depression is was what the Abrahamic bible was talking about with the phrases "valley of the shadow of death" and "in the presence of my enemies" in Psalm 23. The writer's own suicidal thoughts, even. It kind of jars cacophonically with idyllic scene in the first part of the psalm. The people in King David's time, maybe King D. himself, even, would have had it even worse than we do.
I'm feeling really grotty at the moment, tears streaming down my face. I've had a week on Wellbutrin (yes, my psychiatrist came up trumps, talked it through with me), and barely spoken to a soul in that time. It's the least bad of the three drugs I've tried recently (Edronax, Venlafaxine), and still might do some good, although there's no sign of that, yet. Somehow, I'm not getting lunch till the middle of the afternoon, kind of 15:30ish, right now. One week isn't long enough to judge. Correction: I'm desperately striving to prevent myself judging prematurely or investigating any other possible drugs, or anything like that.
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Onestone.
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