Posted by myco on February 1, 2009, at 18:20:12
In reply to Re: Nardil / Parnate Atypical Extrem Despres ADHD HELP, posted by bulldog2 on February 1, 2009, at 14:55:32
> Have you gained weight on the nardil? Sounds like you found the perfect drug for you.
Hey,
It's not perfect but it's as close as I think I am going to come with medication alone...although I'm still considering adding something to tweak the AD response since I still find myself getting down. But perhaps thats where CBT would come in nicely. Ive always hated taking pills but for the effect nardil has on me I dont mind the 5 pills a day plus the sleep med I do take. It's a strange med dude...it kind of feels like a mild, sustained klonipin (benzo) plus it has this, what I interpret as, NE effect/stimulation I can feel in my muscles. The med seems to cycle in response. Everyday is different, sometimes I think its not working for days then wham out it comes again. Like today I was heavily sedated in feeling and not into much (but this is probably do to my increase to 75mg last week that perhaps is now kicking in) then just about 15min ago this stimulation starts to appear in my legs and neck (strange to explain) and im now wide awake and feeling alot better. But the cycling of responce is very interesting. I was reading a paper posted on here (I think by you bulldog) on the mechanics of maios was it? It showed a set of graphs with parnate on neurotranmitter response one day then the next I think it was. Showed the response/measure was different on the different days while still maintaining the same dose and time etc. This might explain why nardil seems to work better somedays and not others. I have whole weeks of crap sometimes, in terms of how I feel, then wham again, out comes the med once more. As if my neurotrasmitters fluctuate levels or cycle often day to day or week to week (also situational life crap will weaken nardils response at times to it seems). I think I will try to record this scientifically, my moods, the responses of the med etc...day to day and look for my own personal patterns which might be a good tool for my own treatment. I encourage those that are starting nardil, and perhaps those who feel that its not working anymore or not as well, to give it time (i'm talking weeks here), mabye even move the dose up and down and notice the differences, be sensitive (observation wise) to what the med is doing and your moods. I think perhaps nardil doesnt actually "poop out" but our neurotransmitters fluctuate all the time and at a certain dose, combined with life bullsh*t, nardil can mask/cover for alot of it but sometimes wont provide that whole nice response that we saw in the beginning (which I believe is simply an overstimulation that our bodies will equilibrate over time). The real effect of the med is more subtle like this and flucuates constantly. Anyway...man what a ramble...but I think something is correct here, along these lines of thinking but i'm a chef not a shrink or pharmacologist lol. oh as for weight, ya i've gained 10-15 pounds in my 2 months on nardil but im not exactly sure its directly related to the med as it's made me a lazy consuming bastard with an inclination to carbs and sweets whose head says sit and chill like lord jaba the hut lol. what else?....oh, sexually...im not completely anorgasmic but it takes more work for sure. Although ive noticed that vitamins/herbs (ive yet to narrow down the culprits here as they are in combo capsules and tablets) actually increase my ability to cum so mabye with some tweeking I can 'overcum' this aswell (ugh lame I know...me needs new material laddie).
anyway cheers
myco
atypical depression, gad, social anxiety
75mg nardil
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