Posted by JadeKelly on January 6, 2009, at 17:23:37
In reply to Re: PARNATE's STAGES: Are they universal?, posted by SLS on January 6, 2009, at 16:15:11
> > With all due respect, I'm not one of those placebo types.
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> I never said anything remotely similar to that.Scott, I was just trying to tell you that I'm NOT going to follow that persons advice, and that my "remission" or "partial remission" I believe means something. Whatever its called.
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> > I know what I felt. I know it ended. I know it was drug related. OK, I see where we're going.
Here, definately a misunderstanding. I felt you were leading me in a direction to sort out my own care, as a teacher would a student. You were telling me (I thought) to look at all the things that worked, and the things that didn't and figure it out, as you felt I could.I wasn't for two seconds worried about convincing you of whatever I felt. Remission/partial remission. Its done and time to move on. I think all we have here are semantics. Its done, whatever we want to call it. Doesn't matter does it? Besides, I trust that you would believe me.
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> I think you misunderstood me. I questioned whether or not what you experienced was a true remission or, rather, a brief drug-induced improvement that does not reflect the ultimate state of homeostasis that the brain eventually settles down into that is a true and stable remission. There is no doubt in my mind that what you experienced was a true biological event that made you feel better. This is a good thing, I believe. Since I am not absolutely sure about that, you might entertain the suggestion offered to you by someone else that this is a bad thing and abort your treatment now. You will get quite a variety of opinions and suggestions I should think.Are we absolutely sure about anything? Well, I think I'll go with yours if you don't mind. Even if you do mind.
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> I wrote, "I guess it depends on what you consider to be a remission."
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> If feeling good for a total time period not exceeding 10 days is a remission for you, then you had a remission. No questions asked. Your depression remitted and you felt better.
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> You can do what you like to try to make it last for more than 10 days. Quite frankly, I don't care if you take my suggestions or not. If the decisions you make lead you to an indefinite remission, then you accomplished the mission. Kudos to the person who hits the bullseye.Well, that hurt.
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> I have been trying to get well for 25 years. I was first diagnosed and treated in 1982. I have seen quite a few changes in the paradigms with which psychiatry operates clinically and investigationally. I have also witnessed quite a few paradigm shifts in my own belief system and resulting behaviors, which included some very reckless and dangerous self-medicating. But that is me, and not you. 25 years doesn't guarantee wisdom or expert marksmanship. I shall leave it at that.Maybe not, but probably comes close if patience is involved. Its a model that most on this board would emulate or take advice from. I think you know that though.
And I would hope that if you see me do something that seems reckless or dangerous you would let me know.
I don't know what else to say Scott. I was following your advice, and thought you'd actually be proud of my decision to stick with it and I even worked up choices based on what you've taught me. I've learned life can be a lot easier if you have a task that is outside your realm expertise, and you have the good fortune to find someone with 25 years experience, AND they are willing to share it. I geuss I'm confused as to why you are angry, I apologize if I wasn't clear. Again, thank you for the help you've given me these past months. I hope we are still on friendly terms.
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>~Jade
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- Scott
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