Posted by Vincent_QC on December 8, 2008, at 17:30:43
In reply to Re: Nardil + Insomnia - Re to 'ParnateStarted2008' » Vincent_QC, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 6, 2008, at 16:48:41
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> Hey, you know, between me and you I think we have very similar disorders. My Psych's (had a few) like to say Im Bipolar and it causes the anxiety when I get bad. I do have bipolar2 im not arguing with that but I also am damn sure Social Phobia fits me like a glove with panic attacks leading to agoraphobia and finally depression and alcohol. I wanted to let you know and anyone else who reads this that you are right about the ZZZ drugs and benzo hypnotics. Like you Ive been on Zanax, Ativan, Clonazepam etc So The hypnotic benzos dont work nor do the zzz's except as an anxiolytic. If I take a Very high dose of them I can sleep but whats the use in abusing them, probably will cause more bad then good. eg. Takes about 37.5mgs+ of zopiclone for me to sleep and about 150mg of Temazepam to make them hypnotic, not too sweet. I ve got a bit of a hypothesis on Parnate for anxiety. It seems that when taken in very high dosages 60-200mg/day it can work excellent for many people as an anxyolytic. Im not too sure why yet but im thinking because it hits hard on NE/Epineph/DA below 60mg and when you go higher It begins really working on Seratonin and other antianxiety neurons. Well its what Im trying as Nardil didnt work and im almost on my last resort..
> Thanks for your post, made me think.
>I find also that we have similar problems but I was never diagnosticed as a bipolar...Cause my mood don't change regulary and don't seem to have a cycle...I can be 3 years without anything, no depression, no social phobia, no panic attack, I admit that I always feel disconnected with the reallity...I never feel like I was like the others people aroud me. Some kind of detached feeling....that's weird...But when the depression and the social phobia hit me, like it does 2 years ago, it's seem that's it never will fade away...
To do a short story...my main problem is social phobia, general anxiety with a panick attack problem and agoraphobia....the depression seem to appear only after a couple of months because I can't cure all this problems...
Look at the new thread of today , you will see that I drop again the Nardil...because I was feeling just like sh*t on it, in fact, I only do 4 days on Parnate and I stop it because I had a lot of panic attacks...I was thinking that it was causing by the Parnate, but now I realise that it was not it...It was probably all the things around it, the fact that I want to be on a strict diet of proteine shake to loose all the weight I gain on the 2 months of Cipralex I had before, the diet seem to give me another source of problem, cause in my first try of Nardil, 3 months at 90mg/day, I had severe hypotension leaving me with syncope sometimes and a worse social intteraction than before I begin the Nardil...The only explaination the doctor give to me was that the Gaba effect of the Nardil was not working on me because I was addicted to benzos...so it's now just a antidepressant for me who hit the DA, NE and SE...nothing else...
My new psychiatrist put me again on Nardil 2 weeks ago, 15mg/day...and I was feeling like I was loosing my times...so I take 30 mg/day more faster than he wanted...and at 30 mg/day I already begin to feel the same bad sensation of hypotension I had before... + now BIG insomnia problem...I never sleep a long time since 2 years, maximum 4 hours in a row..but now it's maybe 2 hours max...So I ask my family doctor last week to give me something to sleep ...He said try the new Seroquel XR...50 mg at night and you will sleep like a baby...hummmm he forget to mention that I will feel like a zombie the day after, with nauseas, difficulty to speak and stay on my feets...very agressive and impulsive with no patience...I think I prefer to not sleep and feel tired all day long than being like this...and I was feeling detached from the reality...not in the real time...I don't know if you understand me...you know, when you do a panic attack, the derpersonalisation thing...you feel out of your bodie and you fear to loose the control of yourself...it's how I was feeling the day after the Seroquel...
I see my psychiatrist tomorrow...Do you think it will be a great idea to ask him to put me back on Parnate??? I never do more than 4 days on it...I should give it a try...
Since you're on it, did the panic attack and stimulating effect fade away with time or I will feel extremely anxious on it??? My new psychiatrist is slow on prescription and to up the dose...it seem that with him, I will be able only to reach the 30 mg/day...that's not enought...I think...
Did you think that having 3 years of well being, and 2 years of sh*tty life, on and on, can be a Bipolar problem? Maybe I have just a more slow cycle than a normal bipolar???
You can trust me, I try everything...except Lithium, Lamictal, Manerix (not avaible in the USA, it's a reversible MAOI but don't work on social phobia), and the newer antipsychotic Geodon...Zeldox in Canada...
I'm so confusing...I fear that the new psychiatrist will remove everything I take and leave me like this...That's hard to handle...I feel very confusing and lost...So lost that last evening I do a car accident...I take an exit of the highway and I loose the control of the car...I was unable to put the break or do anything..I was stuck like this... I had to pop up more than 8 mg of Ativan to calm me ...and 8 mg of Ativan is nothing for me...I take it with 40 mg of Valium at the same time... I was in schock...I just begin top feel that the Seroquel leave my blood stream slowly...my last 50 mg was SAturday night...
Now you understand my problem...I feel like i'm unstable...so maybe i'm bipolar also on the top of that??
Well thank's for your help ;-)
Bye!
Vince
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