Posted by Vincent_QC on December 6, 2008, at 9:36:30
In reply to Re: Any such thing as weight neutral mood stabilizer?, posted by desolationrower on December 4, 2008, at 14:23:02
> I would really try a different hypnotic than seroquel if you have weight problems.
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> -d/rSeroquel is not an hypnotic...at a small dose 25mg, he just act on the histaminic and a1-adrenoretseptoram...mean that you will sleep like a baby on it.
For the weight problem, taking a small dose like 25 mg of seroquel, will not make you gain weight.
And remember that Seroquel is non-habit forming... As an example, when you begin to take Rivotril (Clonazepam), at fisrt, you feel really tired...and that side effect fade away with time, 2 weeks normally, mean that your gaba brains begin to be less sensitive to the hypnotic effect of these benzodiazepine...
The same apply to the ZZZZZZ drugs or Ambient, or Lunesta...whatever you call them...they are all metabolite from well know benzodiazepines like Valium, Rivotril, Ativan...
So if I look at what I write before, and I realize that I already take 4 mg of Ativan a day...that'S completly absurb to think that a 15mg pills of Zopiclone will help me to fall asleep and stay asleep all night long, since my Ativan 4 mg/day is 4 or 5 times more powerfull that the ZZZZZZ drugs...and the ZZZZZ drugs have SHORT half-life...mean that after 2 hours, they don't continu to have effect on your system...so if you have to go to the bathroom, good luck to be able to sleep again...and the last thing, they are really habit forming...Even if someone here will tell you the contrary...that's not true...a lot of studies show that after only 4 or 5 days taking a ZZZZ drugs (benzodiazepine deriative), they all loose thir hypnotic effect. You will just end up increasing the dose to reach the same effect...and that's a never ending circle !!!
Trust me, on Trazodone or Seroquel, in the minimum effective dose you can try(you have to find it...do some test, one night at 10mg, after maybe at 15 if your sleep didn't improve, after 20 mg...)until you find the good combination of the numbers of hours you can sleep in a row, and the energy level you will have the day after.
I'm sure you don't want to feel like a zombie the day after. Yeah, Ambient or Lunesta stay only 2 hours in your body, yeah you will probably have more hungover effects at first on Trazodone or Seroquel, but at least you will never became addicted on them...and your tolerance level will never descrease on Trazodone or Seroquel, even after months on them to sleep.
Anyway, that's my point of view... for someone with just a temporary insomnia problem, and not having an addiction problem to a benzo drugs before, you can go with the ZZZZZ drugs...they will have a good effect on your sleep for sure...But if you already take a benzo pill, i'm sorry but you will never find a ZZZ drugs who will help you...You will have more chance to sleep more with a cheap pills like Unisom2 or any sleep pills avaible on the tablets of your pharmacy...
Good luck ;-)
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