Posted by shasling on October 26, 2008, at 18:58:52
In reply to Re: Exotic Meds for Treatment Resistant Depression, posted by utopizen on October 23, 2008, at 21:29:00
> > Xyrem isn't exactly the same thing anyway. They changed the molecular formula just a teensy bit, but it was enough to eliminate the euphoria. Just makes you sleepy.
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> Who told you this?Well aside from personal experiance as i mentioned,anyone who used GHB much much prior to xyrem,would remember that common recreational dosages ranged from 1g - 2g,....3 grams and a little above would be your average sleep dose.
5 grams for example would surly put most users to sleep.Now for xyrem a 9 gram is a commonly used dose,a 9 gram dose of the pre xyrem era would possably kill someone.
There tons of ways to make GHB,its A simple process,gbl a common element is used in most non xyrem versions due to the simplicity of the kitchen like chemistry.However it can surly be made without it by real chemistry and lab equipment.
Main thing is GHB at 3-5 grams was a serious thing,xyrem goes much higher then that.
Now i cant speak for everyone,and if someone finds it euphoric then they simply do,however even at the "talk about sleep sight" where xyrem is discussed constatly most people there hardly know its ghb and just speak about how well it works with little to no mention of any recreational feel.
FYI" Xyrem is also not the first med version of ghb,in italy it was called Alcover and it was a prescription drug used to treat drug abuse.
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