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Re: caution: Nardil + Adderall » Jnew12

Posted by azalea on October 16, 2008, at 21:50:21

In reply to Re: caution: Nardil + Adderall, posted by Jnew12 on October 16, 2008, at 20:17:26

Not trying to scare the crap out you, I just feel like you should be aware of the risks. Your ADHD requires treatment as does your social anxiety, but the question is how much risk you and your doctor are comfortable with. This is a challenging combination of symptoms to treat and a general psychiatrist may not be able to provide the optimal treatment. Perhaps you could find someone who specializes in psychopharmacology at an academic medical center. While I am no expert, one thing that comes to mind is selegiline. It is an MAOI inhibitor (like Nardil) and is metabolized to L-amphetamine and L-methamphetamine. The oral formulation of selegiline is FDA-approved for Parkinson's disease, but has been used off-label in higher doses to treat various mood and anxiety disorders. The amphetamine metabolites (break down products) would likely help your ADHD symptoms. You're stuck between and rock and a hard place. I hope you find a doctor who can provide treatment for both your social anxiety and ADHD. I don't think you have to choose one or the other.

> You have just scared the crap out of me. I have a blood pressure machine and a program that I code my blood pressure, it tells you whether you normal, prehypertension, or hypertension. I so far have not tested anything but normal, but I only been recording it for a couple days.
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> I have extreme ADHD. I am on college disabilty because of it, and extreme depresson, social anxiety.
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> I have a class in college where we are graded basically only on praticapation points. I have been trying hard to talk so I get a good grade but I guess some kid told on me that I was interupting the class. She reported me to the administration, she says that I talk out of line, and when I talk it is totally off topic, and I repeat things that we are already said. She took me to the side and said that there is a problem, and told me that other kids have been complaining about me.
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> I was furious that she reported me to the administrator, like what are they going to do tell me they no longer want my money and find a new college.
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> But, my doctor who prescribed adderal gave me a paper too fill out. I was honest with her even though I think it's horrible people are talking about me behind my back, that only exaberates my social anxiety.
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> I was not going to give her the paper, because I read it and it was childish and really long like 6 pages.
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> When she confronted me I actually came out and told her, hey I have a problem, and now I am doing something, and taking medication to help stablize me.
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> She actually sounded happy too be apart of the survery. I told her the reason I am like I am is because of ADD, she said she new, she actually went to the disabilty office and asked them what was my problem.
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> Can you see how bad my ADHD is?
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> But, I have social problem, and I don't want to get addicted to benzo again, and I have treatment resistant depression/social phobia, so I have too take the Nardil.
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> It's either Nardil or the Adderal, I took adderal by it's own and it did not do that much for my depression, and made my social anxiety worse. I also would loose my appetite so much, and I have a disorder that makes me vomit, so that is not great.
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> But, with nardil, bupe, and lyrica, and maybe a little xanax, it seems that I can take adderal without being cracked out and my appetite is non changed. I and my family have noticed a improvment in my academics and attention since I started taking it.
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> But, I think I would rather take nardil, bupe, lyrica and xanax, and be a talking machine, then a homebound chump.
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> But, the problems is now that I am talking, I don't know whether it is my ADD or what. I am talking too much, getting on peoples nerves, and starting and stoping a million thing and not getting anything done.
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> Do you see why I would benefit from a stimulant. It's bad enough that I have a teacher telling the administrator on me, and checking into my disability. She agrees I need to be on a med, and she said she would monitor me for my doctor.
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> I also lose thing like crazy, my mind has always been scattered brained, I loose thing like crazy, and my attention span is zero. And now that I am getting help with my social phobia, it is working but bringing out more hyperactive symptoms, when before I had more inattentive symptoms.
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> I am begging you for help. I am desprate, I don't want to fail school that is why I did not tell me doctor, but he also did not act. I see him next week and I know he is going to take my med away from me.
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> Life sucks. I got my social phobia under control with meds, now I almost had my ADD controled.
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> I had a good day by the way, I went to the gym and ran for two hours. I heard the gym is goood for reducing hypertension, but I don't know if it is going to keep me from waking up DEAD.
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> So, no adderal, dexadrine, ritalin, or focalin.
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> Please don't say provigil or strattera, those do not work, my ADD is too extreme.


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