Posted by yxibow on July 22, 2008, at 3:43:21
In reply to i think i have TD from Clozapine, posted by Jeroen on July 21, 2008, at 8:12:57
> i think i have TD from Clozapine
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> i swallow difficult and more and its disturbing feeling plus the drool and getting choken in my own water mouth
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> this is very disturbing, its becoming very clear of this pseudo science is nothing more then burning an evil witch
You do keep mentioning this and Racer and I and others -- and I really don't want to be pejorative -- have tried to indicate that if you don't stay on a particular medication, regardless of the side effects you will NOT achieve the benefits and if the benefits outweigh the risks, micro analyzing every aspect is not helpful and can detract from a medication's use.What you are describing is an unfortunate side effect of Clozaril. A number of people do drool from clozapine and have all sorts of problems related to that, which the swallowing would sound consistent. That is not TD.
(And by the way, other atypicals such as Seroquel and Zyprexa and the like can also rarely cause drooling as well though not like clozapine).
Unfortunately because you either have TD or a related condition, the normally available options for drying out the saliva are slim. Anticholinergics and related drugs are usually the ones of choice and could aggravate whatever neurological condition you do have.There are options I believe of using Botox or making some sort of operation on the salivary glands, I'm just guessing but that is a pretty heavy duty thing to consider.
It is not to say that one can never get TD from Clozaril, but in all the years that people have taken Clozaril, almost none have gotten TD, certainly none who have taken it exclusively. In fact, most people improve.
Now the blood testing part -- if your doctor(s) are not doing their job and sending labs, that's something to get on their case. It is protocol in the countries that dispense clozapine to maintain registries and follow at least a 6 month tight regime of blood testing followed by a more lax lifetime regime of it.
-- best wishesJay
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