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Re: Tianeptine satsumas

Posted by Marty on July 7, 2008, at 17:03:07

In reply to Re: Tianeptine Marty, posted by satsumas on July 7, 2008, at 16:44:43

> can you compare it to S/NRIs like effexor or desipramine (if you've tried it)? As powerful? more/less "serotonin-like" (e.g., reduction of obsessions, positive self-esteem, optimism)?

Didn't tried Desipramine. For me it doesn't feel like Effexor at all. In fact Effexor wasn't good for me and I was feeling quite strange. It's difficult to compare Tianeptine to an SSRI or any other AD out there. It's not a very strong "feel good" drug in the "pleasurable" sense .. while it doesn't sounds very good in theory in practice you may like to feel normal and not 'too much good' .. normal isn't supposed to feel 'serotonergic' all the time, right ? I enjoy normality for the first time in 10 years .. confidence in myself is overinflated but just well adjusted and my perception of reality isn't abnormally too easy/fantastic/sweet etc.. it's just LIFE .. but the normal and worth living version, not the depression/anxious/psychosis-borderish version and not the everything-is-perfect-and-so-I-dont-care-about-anything serotonergic version which in the long run mostly brings you into ahedonia/apathy .. you can't have the serotonergic effect you describe and seems to like without the ahedonia/apathy catching you back after a while... that's the negative part of the serotonergic reuptake inhibition hack. Life highs feel high because of the lifes low which feel low etc... you can't be always high .. because without some lows the brain adapt itself to make the highs the new lows.

> (Emsam gave me terrible anxiety and made me a little too smart for my own good, to say nothing of the sleep disturbances).

Too smart ? wow.. I see how it can be a bad thing but that sounds like a nice side effect! Actually Tianeptine makes me smarter probably because it reduce (abolish?) all of the attention deficit kind of symptoms.. since I'm on it I'm able to do intellectual stuff I wasn't able to even remotly touch in the last decade. Talk about a perfect self esteem boost :) Can you describe what it was for you to feel smarter on Emsam ? any exemples ? how was it bad for you ? ...

also a little background on your diagnosis could make me think about what could interest (or discourage you) about Tianeptine.





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