Posted by bleauberry on January 14, 2008, at 19:20:49
In reply to Re: Experiences with Remeron? » bleauberry, posted by CareBear04 on January 14, 2008, at 18:34:49
I think we are sometimes overdosed just because of what the manufacturer or the drugrep or the clinical trial used as a reference. I don't know what dose zyprexa you did. If it was 5mg, try 1.25mg. If it was 2.5mg, try 1.25mg. If it was 10mg, try 2.5mg. You would need a pill splitter.
Zyprexa weight gain in my opinion is not just from appetite increase. It has been shown to turn on or off certain genes that are involved in metabolic processes, including genes related to weight control. Someone told me I am skinny because both my grandfathers were and it is genetic and there is nothing I can do about. I said yes there is, I can change those genes. They said, how? I said zyprexa. :-)
One method I found for reducing zyprexa side effects the next day was to take it at 4pm each day. That gave a relaxed evening with a definite need to sleep by 9pm, and not much leftover grogginess the next morning. Most people take zyprexa near bedtime which is a guaranteed way to maximize next day grogginess.
After a couple months I had no side effects anyway. I'm just saying I think most doctors prescribe doses that are higher than needed, and the instructions are to take it at bedtime which in my experience is bad advice.
> thanks bleauberry!
> i've tried zyprexa, but only for a few weeks. you're right-- it is a really effective drug, and it stabilized my mood. maybe i wasn't on it long enough, but i did expereince some pretty unpleasant side effects. zyprexa totally knocked me out, which was both good and bad, and i felt hungover the next day. and, even though i haven't been hit by the weight gain side effect of any other med, i definitely gained weight on zyprexa-- about ten pounds in three weeks, which amounts to about 10% of my body weight. do you know whether zyprexa causes weight gain by increasing appetite only or also by affecting metabolism in some way? although zyprexa caused me to eat a whole lot more, i don't put on weight that easily, so it's hard to believe that the whole 10 pounds were due to increased appetite. when i'm depressed or manic, i tend to lose weight, and i'm on that trajectory right now. i know that stopping weight loss and gaining some back would be a good thing, but i found the zyprexa weight gain troubling, with respect to the quantity, the rate, and the lack of control i felt i had over my body. maybe, like you, i would stop having the side effects after a certain point. that would be good since zyprexa did work well for my symptoms. thanks for the suggestion!
> cb
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