Posted by Nardilstarted2007 on December 4, 2007, at 3:25:13
If you have the energy, could you please read my babble? Thanks if you do, its long but hopefully you can help with a few Q's >NardilStrated.
I just got a nardil refill here. The Pharmacy had to order it it from a big warehouse that pretty much supply's everything to Alberta Canada. I was Happy To hear this because I had a feeling they would be newer pills and less smelly/old. 24 hours later they had the Nardil. They put my pills in their pharmacy bottle but I also asked to have One of the bottles it came in from the manufacturer. It says:
-Nardil
-15 mgs
-60 tablets
-Erfa Canada inc.
-4545 sherbrooke Quest
-Westmount QC
-H3Z1E8
-Canada (I live in Canada)
-The DIN is 00476552 (all the writing is in black except a blue rectangle on the left beside "Nardil" and Erfa is in Blue with a small Blue Rectangle beneath.)
-Lot:7034703A
-Exp:01-2009
-The pills are of course the new type and say PD 270 on one side.
-The Bottle is white
-And Holds That Moisturizing Absorber CylinderIm glad To say This is fairly new canister because it has a year left till exp. My first 2 bottles were only a month or two away from exp. And smelt much worse(they were in stock at the pharmacy for god knows how long), These ones I ordered have the same smell but 50%less and are the same PD 270 since my first 2 refills since I started Nardil Oct 12, 2007.
My question to my friends here is, Who else Has this type of Nardil? Is it made by Phizer in France then Shipped to Canada where Erfa Takes over and puts their own name on it? What other country's are taking this PD 270 Erfa? Im guessing Erfa doesn't make it but just buys it from france Phizer and puts their name on it and distributes it. (I really dont Know, I reserched mostly the Medicine, not so much the dreaded companies that make no sence. I dont even know if Phizer's in France.
Is it Phizer who makes it in France, PD 270? Do I have a bad lot #7034703A? does anyone know? Its been 7 weeks on 75mgs/day and I just upped it to 90mgs/day because its not curbing Panic attacks Yet (I am doing other things like positive thinking and Psychiatry, But I have, I guesse the worst case of SP most people can get.......NARDIL HAS takin away most of my simple SP in public and around people!!!!! GREAT stuff. Panic attacks are 75% less, pretty good too. I have a good constant mood on Nardil unlike damn SSRI/SNRIS/NDRIS and combinations of them which made a dreaded *ssh*l* with no feelings and Completely bipolar and A maniac alchoholic!
I must say I cant do public presentations yet tho with the Nardil, I have some next week. I know I will get depersonalized and just stop talking or just keep saying umm because I cant think straight wih all those eyes on me no matter how good nardil has been + doped on zanax and Propanolol.
I know thats maybe to many meds but meds compared to CBT is uncomparable. No Meds = I'll get way paranoid, turn off my phone and be totally agoraphobic and no way would I even attempt to show up at school.I took nardil because after getting off my final SSRI in August, 2007 I tried no meds for two months,(first 3 weeks was great, I had ssri discontinuation induced mania that was wonderful, no SP, PA and great happyness and so many feelings, I felt like crying when I looked at things that made me happy, like my mom, an old forest or even a bird, and camping with my mom, this was all on the same trip, as my mom drove me 1200kms back to college for september. I can sure tell you That when high serotonin (from ssris) has masked the feelings of norepinephrin and dopamine, that when U dicontinue ssri's, (I didnt taper, I used to but I am desensitized to ssris so it was easier for me) the unbelievable feelings you get back are just unbelivable. It only lasts for two to three weeks tho or less then your neuros even out.(I dont think every one gets this but I did.)
So I tried no meds till Thanksgiving (Oct 8th here in Canada.) That makes roughly 2 months. I bought a car and was going to drive home for a good weekend (1200 kms away). I was happy to do this because My SP was starting to kick in again at college. Thinking of the good times on SSRIS back home and Manic drinking episodes with friends cheered me up. Well it didnt go well, I got to my friends place first, and I had a few drinks but sadly I was paranoid as there were other people there too and I had no mania because not on ssris, and I just was SP all night. I got realy drunk and the night ended. (this is all about 2hrs away from home, and my friend is from my area too.) We drove home in the morning and I was so paranoid I swear I could have crashed but I couldnt stop driving. I dropped him off. Then drove to my place just around the corner and drove into our third driveway where there is a hidden trailer and hopped inside. I was Panicking out of control, I was Hiding from my parents and any one else. I stayed there all day and missed thanksgiving. My thanks giving was in the trailer paranoid at noises thinking someone was coming and poping .5zanax every hour.
I made it out later. Took some zanax/propanolol, said hi to my mom and grandma as I was panicking (but Im good at hiding panic, I just seem odd), I quietly packed a little bit of stuff into my car and didnt even say goodby to my dad as I was paranoid to the max. I just jumped in my car and headed back to college Yelling WHYYYY WHYY ME and stopped and a walkin clinic and said I needed a refill if nardil because My card doest work in Alberta, 75mgs/day and I started that dose right then and there Oct 12, 2007. Now Dec 3rd I feel better. hoperfully it gets even better. (im on 90mgs as of 4 days ago)Oh here is my med regime:
-45mgs Nardil in Morning
-45mgs Nardil early afternoon
-xanax 4x a day .5 mgs
Propanolol when needed ( if I actually get my *ss up there and give a speach)
All this at once giving a speach will dull me out and maybe make me unknowledgable on what im talking about and just freaked to have every one staring at me. Propanolol will block the PA but im just so severly SP that.... BAh Im just blabbeling on..
Just Needed to Vent, sorry for long post, And You guys are really the only ones who understand, maybe better then my psychiatrist who is all theoretical.
I feel a bit dumb and slow probably because I just raised to 90 mgs/day.Anyway if ANYONE has some answers to my questions I would love to hear! I'm a little paranoid, even tho Ive researched my face off.. still those questions I dont have answers for
PS. should I take 45mg 2x a day or 3x30mgs/day or does it not matter, just wondering what you guys do/think.
Tahnks alot if you got through my long babble
Your Bud > NardilStarted2007
Cheers To You All!
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